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China's brightest children are being recruited to weaponize AI

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Re: China's brightest children are being recruited to weaponize AI

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Post by spongepoc »

zaru27 wrote: post #29
natch wrote: post #19

China has cultivated in its people a very troubling mental complex centered on national pride and driven by the Century of Humiliation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation To say they are fervent about righting the wrongs and perceived wrongs of the past is an understatement. It's pretty much a driving force of life with many people. It's a powerful dynamic. And it's one that's held close to the ches…

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We need to weaponise our education system against them. Full tuition for humanities; total restriction of access to science and technology programs. This will cultivate liberalism, democracy and dissent amongst Chinese students which would destabalize their regime, while depriving them of the technical knowledge they crave in their drive to overthrow the West. We have been very naive to allow so much access to our intellectual resources to a power that knows how to use it against us.

Re: China's brightest children are being recruited to weaponize AI

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Post by yters »

You think other nations actually buy into peaceful globalism? Everyone is just looking for an opportunity to be the next global superpower and rule the world, and only play nice-nice insofar as it furthers this goal. Global trade certainly does not guarantee global peace. We had global trade before WW1 and WW2, and it did nothing to stop the most horrific wars ever seen in history.

Re: China's brightest children are being recruited to weaponize AI

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Post by spongepoc »

Communitivity wrote: post #3

The US does this with the DARPA Grand Challenge ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Grand_Challenge ). I suspect other countries may be doing this through sponsoring/watching teams from their nation entering international competitions such as the Tech First Challenge ( http://business-review.eu/tag/first-tech-challenge-russia-op... ).

The US doesn't wish to overthrow the democratic west, however.

Re: China's brightest children are being recruited to weaponize AI

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Post by fsloth »

beginningguava wrote: post #9
vslira wrote: post #7

Killer bots will be treated just like nukes: world powers will justify their investment in the technology by saying that the other side is also doing it, and when it becomes clear that there are only two or three powerful countries that can wield the technology, the "international treaties" will come barring everybody else from developing it. I'm not saying that everyone should have nukes, I'm saying the EU, US, Chin…

Unfortunately I think there's a good chance humanity wipes itself out, or at least destroys civilization in the next several centuries. We are still effectively monkeys but have over time developed weapons that are capable of incredible destruction. The issue with regulating AI kill bots is that much of the technology that could be used for good like self-driving cars can also be weaponized. There's really no way to…

I don't share your pessimism - entirely.

While the human body and psychological context is preprogrammed up to a point from our genetic makeup, we are capable at learning.

The same mind that was good enough to craft better stone tools sufficed to send people to other worlds.

The same societies that practiced slavery and genocide reached a point where these became non-accetable.

While as a species we are inherently capable of great horror we are also capable at great acts of compassion and love.

The fact that we are constantly teetering on the edge of animal chaos makes it only more important to try to be a decent human being. And not to listen to your amygdala so much.

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Post by sonnyblarney »

yters wrote: post #32

You think other nations actually buy into peaceful globalism? Everyone is just looking for an opportunity to be the next global superpower and rule the world, and only play nice-nice insofar as it furthers this goal. Global trade certainly does not guarantee global peace. We had global trade before WW1 and WW2, and it did nothing to stop the most horrific wars ever seen in history.

"Everyone" not remotely everyone.

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Post by natch »

kopo wrote: post #30
natch wrote: post #19

China has cultivated in its people a very troubling mental complex centered on national pride and driven by the Century of Humiliation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation To say they are fervent about righting the wrongs and perceived wrongs of the past is an understatement. It's pretty much a driving force of life with many people. It's a powerful dynamic. And it's one that's held close to the ches…

wtf...how many Chinese people do you actually know in real life? I am betting zero.

Quite a few, in a wide range of contexts and places. Hope you didn't put too much money down on that bet.

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Post by stretchwithme »

yters wrote: post #32

You think other nations actually buy into peaceful globalism? Everyone is just looking for an opportunity to be the next global superpower and rule the world, and only play nice-nice insofar as it furthers this goal. Global trade certainly does not guarantee global peace. We had global trade before WW1 and WW2, and it did nothing to stop the most horrific wars ever seen in history.

Every tyrant and would-be tyrant.

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Post by dcccdjdbdd »

spongepoc wrote: post #33
Communitivity wrote: post #3

The US does this with the DARPA Grand Challenge ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Grand_Challenge ). I suspect other countries may be doing this through sponsoring/watching teams from their nation entering international competitions such as the Tech First Challenge ( http://business-review.eu/tag/first-tech-challenge-russia-op... ).

The US doesn't wish to overthrow the democratic west, however.

Why would the US want to otherrhrow it’s hegemony?

The US is, however, involved in overthrowing scores of other country’s regimes.

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Post by beginningguava »

zaru27 wrote: post #29
natch wrote: post #19

China has cultivated in its people a very troubling mental complex centered on national pride and driven by the Century of Humiliation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation To say they are fervent about righting the wrongs and perceived wrongs of the past is an understatement. It's pretty much a driving force of life with many people. It's a powerful dynamic. And it's one that's held close to the ches…

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The solution isn't a ban, it's requiring they become US citizens after they get their degree. Right now we educate them and send them right back. Meanwhile we let in 50,000+ uneducated illegal immigrants a month. It's moronic to allow top tier talent to go back to China rather than keeping them here to benefit the US

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Post by ttls »

natch wrote: post #19

China has cultivated in its people a very troubling mental complex centered on national pride and driven by the Century of Humiliation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation To say they are fervent about righting the wrongs and perceived wrongs of the past is an understatement. It's pretty much a driving force of life with many people. It's a powerful dynamic. And it's one that's held close to the ches…

It is time to pay for the West because they don't care the human rights in China
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