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Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

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Post by dhimes »

Lkjhmnbv wrote: post #24
prolikewh0a wrote: post #11

How do you get this to not turn into a fascist/racist trash bin worse than 4chan/b/ as other Reddit clones have seemingly fallen into?

The same way you prevent them from becoming progressice/racist trash bin worse than reddit. You let them speak and prove them idiots. It's really not hard. Unless you're constantly on the side that's losing, then it's pretty miserable. But know that even though you're losing now you can reformulated your arguments and try again because no ones going to censor you. You have all the same rights because you, like they,…

The problem, however, is that people are unresponsive to arguments. We are not reasonable, unfortunately. People aren't coming to these places to learn. They don't want to learn.

I'm very curious as to how we can get out of this, because I really have a hard time understanding people and this is an enormous laboratory.

Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

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Post by drb91 »

HostFat wrote: post #30
PavlovsCat wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is anyone able to download the Windows client Yeah, but with the same result as what another poster said > Downloaded and installed, but no content has loaded in last 30min. As of yet, the github page says > Aether 2 last version: 2.0.0 (currently non-functional, in development) [..] (Not yet working, 80% complete) and the last commit was 2 months ago :( edit: this is how the page looks to me: https://i.imgur.com/2…

The github isn't updated currently, I've also asked the dev about the update of the source code Maybe there is an issue with the dns. Those are the current links to download https://static.getaether.net/Releases/Aether-2.0.0-dev.5/181... https://static.getaether.net/Releases/Aether-2.0.0-dev.5/181... https://static.getaether.net/Releases/Aether-2.0.0-dev.5/181...

Thank you, very helpful :)

Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

#34

Post by dhimes »

a012 wrote: post #7

For anybody who is curious as me: > Aether is a product of Burak Nehbit (@nehbit). You can reach out at burak at getaether dot net. > Burak Nehbit > Burak is an ex-Google, ex-Facebook product designer and engineer. He specialises in end-to-end product experience, from product, UX, to API (developer) experience. He is an expert in the fields of distributed networks and monetisation (e.g: prior jobs at YouTube and Face…

So, Burak, care to share the thought behind your username? :)

Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

#35

Post by faitswulff »

dhimes wrote: post #31
Lkjhmnbv wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same way you prevent them from becoming progressice/racist trash bin worse than reddit. You let them speak and prove them idiots. It's really not hard. Unless you're constantly on the side that's losing, then it's pretty miserable. But know that even though you're losing now you can reformulated your arguments and try again because no ones going to censor you. You have all the same rights because you, like they,…

The problem, however, is that people are unresponsive to arguments. We are not reasonable, unfortunately. People aren't coming to these places to learn. They don't want to learn. I'm very curious as to how we can get out of this, because I really have a hard time understanding people and this is an enormous laboratory.

> unresponsive to arguments

Not just unresponsive to arguments, but will argue in bad faith, and it takes 10x as much effort to disprove someone's bad contentions than it does to produce them.

Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

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Post by [deleted] »

dhimes wrote: post #31
Lkjhmnbv wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same way you prevent them from becoming progressice/racist trash bin worse than reddit. You let them speak and prove them idiots. It's really not hard. Unless you're constantly on the side that's losing, then it's pretty miserable. But know that even though you're losing now you can reformulated your arguments and try again because no ones going to censor you. You have all the same rights because you, like they,…

The problem, however, is that people are unresponsive to arguments. We are not reasonable, unfortunately. People aren't coming to these places to learn. They don't want to learn. I'm very curious as to how we can get out of this, because I really have a hard time understanding people and this is an enormous laboratory.

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Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

#37

Post by mrspeaker »

CarVac wrote: post #6

I can't figure out how to use the snap.

I downloaded the snap and installed it from the command line with `snap install --dangerous Aether.snap`. Dangerous sounds dangerous... I'm not sure if it was a good idea, but it works and my system found the app when I searched for it. I clicked the "cat's bum icon" and we're away!

Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

#38

Post by wycs »

swiley wrote: post #17
prolikewh0a wrote: post #11

How do you get this to not turn into a fascist/racist trash bin worse than 4chan/b/ as other Reddit clones have seemingly fallen into?

I feel like the cost of having open communication platforms is the existence of toxic communities. The correct approach (IMO) is to educate people about these rather than to have some sort of censorship mechanism.

Then use your exit rights and don’t participate.

Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

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Post by the8472 »

tomsmeding wrote: post #21

From the FAQ: > How long does it take for a post to reach the most of the network? > [...] Long answer [...] > [...] In fact, it’s a little larger than one request in a minute, because some nodes are behind restrictive firewalls and NATs, and they cannot be reached, they can only make requests out. Regardless of the actual FAQ discussed here, the statement is made that "some" nodes are behind NAT's, implying that mos…

Not all NAT's are relevant. As long as they respond to port mapping requests or use endpoint independent mappings they can be traversed.

Also note that IPv6 alone does not help because the recommended way to deploy it is to have firewalls in CPEs that block incoming connections by default, so applications still have to request the port to be opened, using the same protocols as for v4 NAT.

Re: Aether – Free, privacy-sensitive public communities

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Post by aluren »

Lkjhmnbv wrote: post #24
prolikewh0a wrote: post #11

How do you get this to not turn into a fascist/racist trash bin worse than 4chan/b/ as other Reddit clones have seemingly fallen into?

The same way you prevent them from becoming progressice/racist trash bin worse than reddit. You let them speak and prove them idiots. It's really not hard. Unless you're constantly on the side that's losing, then it's pretty miserable. But know that even though you're losing now you can reformulated your arguments and try again because no ones going to censor you. You have all the same rights because you, like they,…

What if you don't want to prove them wrong, or indeed engage them at all? Not everyone is owed a debate, a response, or even eyeballs. There's plenty of interesting content out there that people are paid to read, what makes you think anyone who values their time would be willing to read racist trash for free?
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