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This symbol has a couple of uses in writing ancient Egyptian. The most common use is probably as a determinative. Ancient Egyptian, much like many Semitic languages, omits the vowels in a word in writing. Determinatives are ideograms that disambiguate between several words with the same consonants but different meanings. This symbol is used to denote maleness or strength. For example, 𓂓𓏺 is ka for "spirit." 𓂓𓂸 is…

The most common use is probably as a determinative. Ancient Egyptian, much like many Semitic languages, omits the vowels in a word in writing. Determinatives are ideograms that disambiguate between several words with the same consonants but different meanings. That's an interesting fact. As someone with no knowledge of how languages are formed it makes me wonder why have a written language that purposefully omits vow…

> no knowledge of how languages are formed

I recommend reading this article. The problem he is solving is representing text in ASCII. For example an e with an accent can be replaced with a plain e. But what about languages not using the base Roman alphabet? You get a fascinating tour of Divehi and the final result - the unidecode module - works rather well.

http://interglacial.com/tpj/22/

Re: Unicode Dicks

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The google-noto-sans-egyptian-hieroglyphs-fonts package provides the required fonts to enjoy this page on Fedora/CentOS 7.

I had to install fonts-ancient-scripts in Debian.

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Ah, I wondered when this would be come up, so to speak. It's just the Egyptian Hieroglyph Unicode block. Apparently the ancient Egyptians were not aware of the comedic value of this symbol to future generations.

Ancient Egyptians: forever 12 years old

Re: Unicode Dicks

#38
I was hoping an HN reader would be able to comment on what the purpose of the middle (𓂹) symbol is. Anyone?

Googling the symbol hasn't provided any leads.

Re: Unicode Dicks

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post #11

This symbol has a couple of uses in writing ancient Egyptian. The most common use is probably as a determinative. Ancient Egyptian, much like many Semitic languages, omits the vowels in a word in writing. Determinatives are ideograms that disambiguate between several words with the same consonants but different meanings. This symbol is used to denote maleness or strength. For example, 𓂓𓏺 is ka for "spirit." 𓂓𓂸 is…

The most common use is probably as a determinative. Ancient Egyptian, much like many Semitic languages, omits the vowels in a word in writing. Determinatives are ideograms that disambiguate between several words with the same consonants but different meanings. That's an interesting fact. As someone with no knowledge of how languages are formed it makes me wonder why have a written language that purposefully omits vow…

In the same way their written language couldn't express vowels, the english written language cannot adequately express the full range of tones and pauses we have when speaking.

People have attempted to convey some portions of spoken tone with thing like the "" tag, and commas/ellipses/etc all convey some level of pauses, but they are not substitutes for the full nuance of spoken english.

Asking "Why did their written language not convey the full range of spoken sounds by default" is like asking "Why doesn't written English contain volume cues to indicate when the speaking tone should be louder".

All written languages that are created to represent a spoken language are inherently lossy.

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