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Coinbase is launching support for the USDC stablecoin

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Re: Coinbase is launching support for the USDC stablecoin

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Blockchain-based stablecoins seem like a really convoluted and environmentally wasteful way to implement centralized, cryptographically secure USD based account transfers. Why not just use Chaumian ecash [0] - which is perfectly suitable for this purpose and doesn't require mining? [0] - http://sceweb.sce.uhcl.edu/yang/teaching/csci5234WebSecurity...

Perhaps this is another answer to these environmental concerns?

https://medium.com/poa-network/poa-network-partners-with-mak...

Re: Coinbase is launching support for the USDC stablecoin

#32
post #11

Stablecoins seem like they would achieve most of the goals of the original cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin: - Decentralized transactions - 24/7 access - Low fees - Store of value I suppose the only drawback here is that they're issued from a centralized authority. That said, for practical purposes the vast majority of Bitcoin holders didn't mine their own coins either. Despite this, no one on Twitter[1] seemed excit…

In this case USDC isn't a store of value. The USD backing USDC stores the value. USDC is just a token for a USD.

Re: Coinbase is launching support for the USDC stablecoin

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post #11

Stablecoins seem like they would achieve most of the goals of the original cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin: - Decentralized transactions - 24/7 access - Low fees - Store of value I suppose the only drawback here is that they're issued from a centralized authority. That said, for practical purposes the vast majority of Bitcoin holders didn't mine their own coins either. Despite this, no one on Twitter[1] seemed excit…

The US dollar already is exactly that with square cash or Venmo.

Except you can't send between the two. Isn't that so silly?

You can send USDC to/from any wallet that implements it.

This is a benefit of the blockchain, a protocol for money.

Re: Coinbase is launching support for the USDC stablecoin

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Excited to see a reputable company like Coinbase launch this. Hopefully with their reputation we can avoid another Tether situation. The US government should launch their own stablecoin. A digital US dollar is a national need that shouldn’t be managed by a corporation in my opinion.

The government's "stable coin" lost 96% of its value since 1913. Time to try something different? https://comparegoldandsilverprices.com/news/economics-101/do...

What a strawman. Inflation BAAAAAD, right guys?

C'mon. We all know why the Fed targets a relatively consistent rate of inflation. It's because deflation suppresses consumer spending. Not what you want in a consumer economy.

Re: Coinbase is launching support for the USDC stablecoin

#35
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Decentralized transactions are distinct from decentralized issuance. Decentralized issuance doesn't matter to most people in the cryptocurrency ecosystem. They have been happy to participate in ICOs where coins are issued from a central authority. That said, I haven't yet heard anything on how transactions are actually verified (ie. Proof of work vs Proof of Stake) Edit: It appears to be an Ethereum-based token: http…

> Decentralized transactions are distinct from decentralized issuance Dollars can be transacted, online and offline, through a variety of means ranging from at the Federal Reserve to totally de-centralised.

But they can't be used over the internet without permission.

It could be argued that this requires permission as well since there will be 'know your customer' laws that surround buying and selling them, but to what extent they will require permission might remain to be seen.

Re: Coinbase is launching support for the USDC stablecoin

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The government's "stable coin" lost 96% of its value since 1913. Time to try something different? https://comparegoldandsilverprices.com/news/economics-101/do...

What a strawman. Inflation BAAAAAD, right guys? C'mon. We all know why the Fed targets a relatively consistent rate of inflation. It's because deflation suppresses consumer spending. Not what you want in a consumer economy.

What if I want to save? Certainly seems kinda bad when my savings keeps losing value

Re: Coinbase is launching support for the USDC stablecoin

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How are USD backed cryptocurrencies not considered illegal USD surrogates? If they aren't yet, maybe they will be once there's a lawsuit.

It looks like a repeat of the Liberty Dollar to me, and that whole affair ended with charges of money laundering, mail fraud, wire fraud, counterfeiting, and conspiracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_dollar_(private_curren...

Re: Coinbase is launching support for the USDC stablecoin

#38
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Decentralized transactions are distinct from decentralized issuance. Decentralized issuance doesn't matter to most people in the cryptocurrency ecosystem. They have been happy to participate in ICOs where coins are issued from a central authority. That said, I haven't yet heard anything on how transactions are actually verified (ie. Proof of work vs Proof of Stake) Edit: It appears to be an Ethereum-based token: http…

> Decentralized transactions are distinct from decentralized issuance Dollars can be transacted, online and offline, through a variety of means ranging from at the Federal Reserve to totally de-centralised.

Yes, but once I have acquired dollars and wish to send them to you I must involve a third party. Not involving that third party would be the sell here.

I have no position in any cryptocurrency and am not trying to argue that USDC is better than USD. I'm just saying that stablecoins achieve most of the goals of a decentralized currency yet despite this they are not appealing to today's cryptocurrency community.

Re: Coinbase is launching support for the USDC stablecoin

#39
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US dollar already is exactly that with square cash or Venmo.

Except you can't send between the two. Isn't that so silly? You can send USDC to/from any wallet that implements it. This is a benefit of the blockchain, a protocol for money.

Only if both wallets implement it, isn’t it silly not all wallets support all stable coins? Nope, it isn’t.

Moreover there seems to be a misunderstanding, square cash allows you to instantly move money between bank accounts, via your bank, have at it, totally interoperable because dollars.

Re: Coinbase is launching support for the USDC stablecoin

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post #11

Stablecoins seem like they would achieve most of the goals of the original cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin: - Decentralized transactions - 24/7 access - Low fees - Store of value I suppose the only drawback here is that they're issued from a centralized authority. That said, for practical purposes the vast majority of Bitcoin holders didn't mine their own coins either. Despite this, no one on Twitter[1] seemed excit…

Store of value? Not necessarily. stable coins pegged to an inflationary asset like the dollar will not preserve your value. You need a stable coin pegged to something like gold or bitcoin. Edit: curious, why downvotes? Was just pointing out a technical mistake...
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