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Firesheep: Easy HTTP session hijacking from within Firefox

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Re: Firesheep: Easy HTTP session hijacking from within Firefox

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post #13

Nice . A solid demonstration to show next time your webmaster doesn't want to set up SSL everywhere. That said, the current cartel-like setup of certificate authorities (protection money and everything!) makes SSL annoying and expensive if you want the browser to not have a fit. Especially for small-scale projects. But there's really no excuse for larger sites.

SSL is bad for the environment because it requires far more server side hardware... Well, I'm only partially serious about the environment thing, the question is, how can internet companies make it commercially viable to use SSL for everything? The added hardware and power costs make each user way more expensive, possibly to the point where they may not actually be worth it.

An alternative is to bind the user's session to their IP address, but that isn't fool proof either because of NAT, DHCP and certain big ISPs that tend to change IPs on the fly.

What cost-effective solution would you suggest?

Re: Firesheep: Easy HTTP session hijacking from within Firefox

#33
post #13

Nice . A solid demonstration to show next time your webmaster doesn't want to set up SSL everywhere. That said, the current cartel-like setup of certificate authorities (protection money and everything!) makes SSL annoying and expensive if you want the browser to not have a fit. Especially for small-scale projects. But there's really no excuse for larger sites.

You can get SSL certificates for free for one domain, and they work with all browsers (except Opera, IIRC). Also, you can use Perspectives for Firefox, which I think is much better than the current system.

I've had a bit of a look on Google, but I'm not 100% sure which provider you mean? Where can you get free SSL certificates that don't upset browsers?

Re: Firesheep: Easy HTTP session hijacking from within Firefox

#34

What can an end user do to minimize this? This exploit is for insecure Wifi networks- so only using encrypted Wi-fi or Ethernet would seem to remove this attack vector. Is there a real risk that someone (besides the government) can see your cookie?

vpn/ssh tunnel/encrypted wifi

Re: Firesheep: Easy HTTP session hijacking from within Firefox

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can get SSL certificates for free for one domain, and they work with all browsers (except Opera, IIRC). Also, you can use Perspectives for Firefox, which I think is much better than the current system.

I've had a bit of a look on Google, but I'm not 100% sure which provider you mean? Where can you get free SSL certificates that don't upset browsers?

Ah, I can't remember the name now... Rapidssl? That's probably it. Check historio.us, the ssl cert there is a free one (which is, sadly, why subdomains don't validate).

EDIT: I searched and it's actually http://cert.startcom.org/.

Re: Firesheep: Easy HTTP session hijacking from within Firefox

#37
The explanation I've always heard for not using HTTPS 100% of the time is that it puts an substantial load on the server, and for many sites it's overkill. Setting aside the subjective topic of "overkill" ... how much more CPU-intensive is it to serve pages over HTTPS compared to HTTP?

Re: Firesheep: Easy HTTP session hijacking from within Firefox

#38
post #36

Why don't Facebook and other major sites check the user agent and IP address of client as well, instead of just relying on a cookie? That would solve this problem in 99% of the cases, right?

If you're on the same wireless network as someone, you have the same external IP address.

Re: Firesheep: Easy HTTP session hijacking from within Firefox

#40
post #24

The sidebar is not showing up for me after installing and restarting. Firefox 3.6.11 OS X 10.6 firesheep-0.1-1.xpi

Same setup. Sidebar shows for me after selecting it from the View -> Sidebar menu, however it pops up with a message that says "Run --fix-permissions first." Not sure where I'm supposed to run this flag.

Same error for me. No idea where to run though.
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