It's a rebranded Huawei https://support.huawei.com/enterprise/en/access-network/echo...
Oh - you must mean a re-branded extension of the Chinese government's spying apparatus? https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-huaweis-partne...
vs. AT&T?
Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market
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Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market
#32Meanwhile in SV I have to keep calling Comcast every year to renegotiate the price for my Blast!(r) 250Mbps cable.
I've a 150mbps plan but I get only 40mbps most mornings. There are remote locations in India that have fiber and get 80mbps throughout the day.
Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market
#33Salt[1] in Switzerland has been offering 10Gbps FTTH for half a year. Maybe Bahnhof's router is better, but it's certainly not the first. [1] https://fiber.salt.ch/en/
USI in Minnesota (US) has been doing it for over a year. They launched 2.5gbit and 5gbit options back at the start of 2016. Granted, their coverage map is a tiny fraction of Minneapolis.
That being said, I think Banhoff was claiming to be the first in Sweden, not worldwide.
Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing about this 10Gbps Salt Fiber Deal is that it's only available in very few places. I have 1Gbps Fiber Internet via Swisscom[0] at my Residence, but Salt Fiber is apparently not availible to me, even though the Fiber Infrastructure is shared between all Internet Providers. [0] 80.- per Month
The last mile infrastructure is shared but the ISP still needs equipment nearby. Have a look at Init7's map for an example of how many you need to cover a good chunk of Switzerland: https://www.init7.net/de/infrastruktur/fiber7-pops/
Huh; why did they build things this way, instead of doing the overland equivalent of a cellular https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operato..., where the "ISP equipment" is shared too?
Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is ridiculous. And in Vienna the max you can get over fiber is 300/30 for twice the price of that.
Australia: where the govt spends $40bn on broadband infrastructure and we still only get 100/40 unlimited for $79 (with an ISP with decent peering; you can get it cheaper but nooooo) (you can get 250/100 but that caps you at 3TB and costs $250/mo) EDIT: scratch that, it’s up to $51bn
Be grateful, I'm sitting in metropolitan Melbourne and am stuck with ADSL until 2020, when we will be "upgraded" to decades-old HFC.
Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market
#36Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is ridiculous. And in Vienna the max you can get over fiber is 300/30 for twice the price of that.
Australia: where the govt spends $40bn on broadband infrastructure and we still only get 100/40 unlimited for $79 (with an ISP with decent peering; you can get it cheaper but nooooo) (you can get 250/100 but that caps you at 3TB and costs $250/mo) EDIT: scratch that, it’s up to $51bn
Should probably note that most people cant get 100/40, are on ADSL3.5 (VDSL2) and the NBN Co only guarantee 25/5... for $51 bn. The network was already antiquated before they even began building it and will need to spend another $51bn right away to install labours FTTH. Their pipe dreams about 5G saving the day are rubbish. Its so bad some politician thought it reasonable to charge the AU ppl $35k/yr for his internet bill at home(4G + over data). /sigh
Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market
#38If I did live in Sweden and did have Bahnhof, could I hypothetically use my own router by a SFP+ or other connection to the "handoff interface" or whatever people call it these days?
Yes. In general fiber connections here use the "Stadsnät" system (municipality/city network). The municipality owns the cables and provides you with a dumb fiber/RJ45 converter. You hook up your own router (if you want to use one) to that. The only thing your ISP provides is, well, the connection. If you're unhappy with your ISP then you can switch from the stadsnät's website in ~5 minutes.
Or at least that's the happy case. Cable (Comhem) and ADSL (usually Telia) are the same shitshows as everywhere else, and there are a few fiber providers (such as Ownit, which my HOA is stuck with) that opt out of the stadsnät system and instead trick HOAs into signing multi-year exclusivity contracts that somehow manage to make Comhem look good.
Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market
#39It's a rebranded Huawei https://support.huawei.com/enterprise/en/access-network/echo...
ISP perspective: a shitload of people are using Huawei and/or ZTE for GPON networks now. I am at lot less scared of that for last mile access stuff, than I am of people who think it's actually a good idea to use Huawei or ZTE as core routers for major ASes (in the same places you would see a twin $250,000 pair of Cisco or Juniper modular chassis based routers).
Re: Bahnhof’s 10 Gbit/s router for home use – the fastest on the market
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's not true 10Gbit. It's only 10Gbit to some pole and then it is shared. As opposed to a dedicated direct 10 gigabit line to every other internet device? Everything is always shared unless you request a dedicated circuit between a given set of points. Sometimes the over subscription ratio is just shit, which is a real thing to complain about.
In Switzerland other fiber providers (such as Init7) have a dedicated physical fiber strand to your premises and a dedicated 1Gbit port on the other side. Salt uses 10G-PON, which as I understand it splits a single 10Gbit port. Salt's configured to split it 64 ways. It's possible other providers are oversubscribed upstream but I haven't personally experienced any congestion issues with Init7, even over long distances…
All ISPs are at the edge of being oversubscribed. If not they're either commercially incompetent or in the hype stage of a marketing cycle (omg check this ISP I can download 24/7 at full speed)