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Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

#31

Post by corobo »

austinheap wrote: post #7
corobo wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's possible due to issue #1229. I know I shouldn't judge a project by it's closed issues but honestly I think the issue closure here has branded PeerTube as forever small fry in my mind https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/1229

Chocobozzz didn't say that PeerTube will never support load balancing, just that -- for the issue you linked -- load balancing the transcoding engine is not a priority for the core dev team/doesn't promote their top-line goals of decentralization. I'm sure they'd accept a well-written PR.

For context

> Sorry but peertube does not support load balancing. If you plan to have many users, you should consider creating different instances (to promote decentralization).

How I read this, whether correctly or not, was that it’s suggested you set up an entirely new server, new database, new domain, new storage (cluster?), etc instead of being able to grow out your one instance. So now any new users need to register and upload to server2.example.com because of “because decentralisation”

It’s just not feasible for the mainstream.

Please do correct me if I’m interpreting incorrectly

Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

#32

Post by 14 »

With YouTube I have noticed more and more videos require "age verification" which means forced log in. Just turns me off to be honest. Because first of all, anyone can create an email address and sign up, including my teen kid. So no it is not an age verification but a tracking system. If I am at my moms or a friends and using YouTube I don't want to sign into their potentially compromised pc with my credentials(sadly no yubikey at this time). Plus my password is like 20 long and random generated so I have no chance of remembering it. So I get to these videos and I am blocked from watching it without putting in an effort so I clearly can be tracked. I wait for the day people ditch YouTube for peer tube and the few videos I have in mind to future create, will be straight to peer tube not YouTube. My motivations are to share my knowledge not make any money from it.

Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

#33

Post by austinheap »

corobo wrote: post #31
austinheap wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chocobozzz didn't say that PeerTube will never support load balancing, just that -- for the issue you linked -- load balancing the transcoding engine is not a priority for the core dev team/doesn't promote their top-line goals of decentralization. I'm sure they'd accept a well-written PR.

For context > Sorry but peertube does not support load balancing. If you plan to have many users, you should consider creating different instances (to promote decentralization). How I read this, whether correctly or not, was that it’s suggested you set up an entirely new server, new database, new domain, new storage (cluster?), etc instead of being able to grow out your one instance. So now any new users need to regi…

> How I read this, whether correctly or not, was that it’s suggested you set up an entirely new server, new database, new domain, new storage (cluster?), etc instead of being able to grow out your one instance.

I could see that interpretation. Personally, I read that as "if you need to load balance transcoding, that code won't be done by the core team (right now)". You can already use whatever Postgres/Redis/nginx setup you want, cluster/load-balance those how you desire, etc. Load balancing the transcoding engine for new uploads is simply a different beast.

> So now any new users need to register and upload to server2.example.com because of “because decentralisation”

The only scenario in which load balancing transcoding changes anything is if 1) a user is uploading videos to a specific instance and 2) that instance is busy transcoding videos that were uploaded previously. So if a user uploads a video to an instance where all the transcoding threads are already busy, it wouldn't be available until a thread freed up to transcode it.

> Please do correct me if I’m interpreting incorrectly

FWIW I'm not trying to put words in Chocobozzz's mouth, just my interpretation.

Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

#34

Post by TekMol »

14 wrote: post #32

With YouTube I have noticed more and more videos require "age verification" which means forced log in. Just turns me off to be honest. Because first of all, anyone can create an email address and sign up, including my teen kid. So no it is not an age verification but a tracking system. If I am at my moms or a friends and using YouTube I don't want to sign into their potentially compromised pc with my credentials(sadl…

    anyone can create an email address and sign up
    including my teen kid

    my password is like 20 long and random generated
    so I have no chance of remembering it.
Solution: Ask your kid to set up a throwaway account for you. With an easy to remember password.

Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

#35

Post by Confiks »

14 wrote: post #32

With YouTube I have noticed more and more videos require "age verification" which means forced log in. Just turns me off to be honest. Because first of all, anyone can create an email address and sign up, including my teen kid. So no it is not an age verification but a tracking system. If I am at my moms or a friends and using YouTube I don't want to sign into their potentially compromised pc with my credentials(sadl…

This doesn't address your main point, but you might appreciate an easy workaround for this problem: access the video at

    /embed/$videoid

Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

#36

Post by 14 »

TekMol wrote: post #34
14 wrote: post #32

With YouTube I have noticed more and more videos require "age verification" which means forced log in. Just turns me off to be honest. Because first of all, anyone can create an email address and sign up, including my teen kid. So no it is not an age verification but a tracking system. If I am at my moms or a friends and using YouTube I don't want to sign into their potentially compromised pc with my credentials(sadl…

anyone can create an email address and sign up including my teen kid my password is like 20 long and random generated so I have no chance of remembering it. Solution: Ask your kid to set up a throwaway account for you. With an easy to remember password.

That does not address the tracking I have a problem with so not exactly a solution. Every time I use that throw away account on any pc I become connected forever to that pc in many data points. Youtube is getting plenty of data even if I use a throw away account. I would need to make a new throw away account, from a different ip address each time I wanted to do as you describe to avoid tracking so sometimes I just don't bother with the video.

Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

#37

Post by [deleted] »

stev0lution wrote: post #29
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a good point. I'm very interested in plans to allow recouping of network costs. I'm happy to store my videos on my home desktop or in the cloud somewhere; that's inexpensive. But if a million people want to download my videos in 4K someday? I can't afford to pay for that. Those downloaders might be willing to pay a few pennies each, though. An advertising network seems like the obvious but wrong solution. I wond…

Ever heard about Brave or BAT? https://github.com/brave

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