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And here I thought having to do FizzBuzz for two different interviewers was onerous.
Polygraphs can produce errors that may be used as a wrongful justification for an employer to dismiss your application.
...on the other hand
A fizz buzz application that produces errors _should_ be used as a justification for a potential employer to dismiss you entirely.
six years later and hes still working for us, we get an order from that same municipality to overhaul the intercoolers on nearly two dozen cop cars. I called up the pool manager and asked about the polygraph, and his response was they use outside contractors to get around the fact they have no certified mechanics.
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It gives employers a way to "scientifically" justify their hiring practices against discrimination lawsuits.
IANAL but what's to prevent the litigating party from immediately filing a Daubert motion against an employer who tries to say they used the polygraph to 'scientifically' disqualify a prospective job seeker-since you can't just hand a polygraph machine to any on-staff HR rep and go "No go see if Bob here really graduated from MIT like he says", and the wealth of research telling us how problematic results can be?
Under what circumstances would a case like this even come to pass? From what I gathered from the article, these administrative hearings where applicants may plead their cases are not court proceedings but administrative hearings conducted by law enforcement officials.
Relief would likely come only under another course of action, like a civil rights case brought against the hearing committee (as mentioned in the article).
Unless you are referring to an action brought against the hearing committee on the basis that the test was improper because the person administering the test was untrained. At that point, I would imagine the court would not want to prescribe the hiring practices of local law enforcement and would defer to them (unless those practices could be shown to be discriminatory against some protected class).
Also, I didn't get the sense that these tests are administered by untrained HR reps, but I may have missed something in the article.
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You could say the same thing about homeopathy - they are an effective placebo. Do you support their use too?
I don't support the use of homeopathy, but I don't think that's a great analogy. Polygraphs are used as an interrogation technique, where psychological tricks and deception on the part of law enforcement are "fair game" (we could enter a long discussion as to whether or not deception during interrogations/interviews should be permitted, but regardless, that's the status quo right now). Trickery and deception when it…
What about when it is known to work?
https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/putting-the-pla...
I once was gassing up at a station, and for whatever reason the card reader on the pump wasn't charging, but would let me pump gas anyways. So me, and everyone else who'd used that pump that day, received a phone call from the police telling me to go pay for the gas. I figured it was just an honest mistake and didn't think anything of it. Fast forward a bit, to where I am undergoing a polygraph examination for the NS…
And was he wrong?
You pumped gas without paying. Did you acknowledge it as a criminal act or as good fortune or not at all? Look at it from the interrogators perspective.
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I don't support the use of homeopathy, but I don't think that's a great analogy. Polygraphs are used as an interrogation technique, where psychological tricks and deception on the part of law enforcement are "fair game" (we could enter a long discussion as to whether or not deception during interrogations/interviews should be permitted, but regardless, that's the status quo right now). Trickery and deception when it…
> Trickery and deception when it comes to medicine and personal health are never fair game. What about when it is known to work? https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/putting-the-pla...
I once was gassing up at a station, and for whatever reason the card reader on the pump wasn't charging, but would let me pump gas anyways. So me, and everyone else who'd used that pump that day, received a phone call from the police telling me to go pay for the gas. I figured it was just an honest mistake and didn't think anything of it. Fast forward a bit, to where I am undergoing a polygraph examination for the NS…
It’s a subjective interrogation with a prop. You tingled his spidey sense. And was he wrong? You pumped gas without paying. Did you acknowledge it as a criminal act or as good fortune or not at all? Look at it from the interrogators perspective.
https://antipolygraph.org/ The lie behind the lie detector.