About a year ago I discovered that California has its own tartan pattern. Unfortunately I was unable to find any manufacturer which currently makes a flannel shirt in this pattern. It's a shame, the pattern is quite nice, but it's unclear to me whether it's ever used anywhere.
The Scottish Register of Tartans
31–40 of 49 posts
Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans
#32As a Scot, I was slightly surprised to see that this is actually an official Scottish Government service! Edit: I should have guessed by the domain.
I’m surprised Scotland doesn’t have its own TLD.
They do - .scot!
Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans
#33As a Scot, I was slightly surprised to see that this is actually an official Scottish Government service! Edit: I should have guessed by the domain.
I’m surprised Scotland doesn’t have its own TLD.
It does, I was actually surprised .scot existed but noticed an advert for it the other day
Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
What seems weird about those details? Seems to cover all the things you need to make a payment over the phone.
Isn't paying with credit card over phone weird enough? Anyone eavesdropping on the phone line gets full access to your card details, not to say that the person on the other side of the line gets it. Normally I would expect an https-protected webform of a trusted payment processor.
It's very common in the UK and known as a "Cardholder Not Present" transaction. The merchant needs explicit permission from their payment provider to be able to process these transactions either via their handheld terminal or an equivalent "terminal" running on their PC or payment provider website.
There are strict rules about not writing down cardholder details etc as well. You're correct, these are riskier transactions and the cost per transaction can be higher for the merchant to be able to accept payments this way.
Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah - a lot of traditions were "revived" (i.e. invented) for the visit of King George IV to Scotland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visit_of_King_George_IV_to_Sco... Which is ironic given the almost ethnic cleaning levels of treatment given to Highlanders and their culture following the '45 and the later Clearances: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Culloden#Aftermath https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Cle…
I can loosely trace my family to those events. History gets blurry before the clearances and the Jacobite revolution. Fairlie and Kilmarnock in Ayrshire. After that the family was only listed in Broxburn and Uphall mining towns outside of Edinburgh. edit: Got a name wrong. Kilmarnock in Ayrshire, but also were around Kirkliston near Edinburgh along with the other two towns later on.
The will of those people against the English was unbelievable.
During the siege of Caerlaverock Castle, 60 Scottsmen held off 3000 English men along with about 87 English knights. It is also one of the most exquisite castles in that it is triangular. If you ever are in Dumfries, you must see it: http://www.techandfacts.com/caerlaverock-castle-scotland/
Edit: This poem from one of the king's heralds detailing the battle is incredible: https://fourteenthcenturyfiend.com/2017/02/03/the-siege-of-c...
Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's a map showing the occupation of Scotland by the British Army after the '45. It's quite incredible: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AldSMUTTjTtqxQp1kDhjRKqjXNp...
The number of towns that start with "Fort" is a bit of a give away (although some of these were from earlier rebellions) - places like Fort George are pretty impressive and well worth visiting (and it's still an Army base): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_George,_Highland
It might be interesting to see a map of the world with all the places named "Fort" or the equivalent highlighted.
Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can loosely trace my family to those events. History gets blurry before the clearances and the Jacobite revolution. Fairlie and Kilmarnock in Ayrshire. After that the family was only listed in Broxburn and Uphall mining towns outside of Edinburgh. edit: Got a name wrong. Kilmarnock in Ayrshire, but also were around Kirkliston near Edinburgh along with the other two towns later on.
The will of those people against the English was unbelievable. During the siege of Caerlaverock Castle, 60 Scottsmen held off 3000 English men along with about 87 English knights. It is also one of the most exquisite castles in that it is triangular. If you ever are in Dumfries, you must see it: http://www.techandfacts.com/caerlaverock-castle-scotland/ Edit: This poem from one of the king's heralds detailing the batt…
My family (father's side) left Scotland and the company towns in the 30's and we're planted in Canada.
Mother's side left much later—from Derry & Belfast in the early 60's—notably to get away from the Troubles— but that's another thing altogether (yet still rooted in English interference...).
Still it's long been on my list to visit. I still have family in Belfast and Newcastle and some in Edinburgh and London. There's even an old Fairlie castle I'd like to see. Reminder of what became a family of tradesmen used to be haha... it's kind of striking to read back in family history and seeing a few common names repeated again and again. Mine pops up in this article (namesake, rather) — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairlie_Castle
Sadly, the family is noted as being extinct. We're still here, just not reflective of what it was, I suppose.
Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you sure this is as uncommon as you suggest?
I have seen it only once so far when one minor German publisher asked me to send the same details per snail-mail. Luckily they also had other options. I can't really know how common it is in UK, never been there, but I would definitely be surprised.
Can confirm it's normal enough in both Canada and the US, though the security code is only sometimes requested. I don't have knowledge either way about this question for the UK.
Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans
#39The good thing about this, is it puts tartans into a modern IPR context and sheds the Walter Scott fake history. It's no different to burberry trademarking it's red flash check. All the clan/sept/hunting/dress stuff is a giant fantasy of post Regency construction. Harris Tweed on the other hand, is much more a "thing" and deserves its restricted mark for heritage reasons. Cornish sailors knitting patterns next!
Yeah - a lot of traditions were "revived" (i.e. invented) for the visit of King George IV to Scotland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visit_of_King_George_IV_to_Sco... Which is ironic given the almost ethnic cleaning levels of treatment given to Highlanders and their culture following the '45 and the later Clearances: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Culloden#Aftermath https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Cle…
> Yeah - a lot of traditions were "revived" (i.e. invented) for the visit of King George IV to Scotland
Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans
#40Out of curiosity I checked out the "New Tartans" page. The most recent item is: https://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tartanDetails?ref=12260 which, sadly, seems to have been registered on behalf of a white supremacist cult.
As an Icelandic man that loves his ancestry and the viking themes and styles accompanying that I just have this to say:
Right wing kheads, stop using our legacy and legends as a vehicle for your ked up beliefs! Vikings and norse people were not pure, they assimilated whatever culture they came into contact with, including blood, as they spread across europe. Seriously, go make up your own weird ass religion to cling your racist beliefs to. It worked for scientology!
I hate the fact that I have to think twice about getting a line from a viking script tattooed on my arm because it might be thought of as right wing.