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Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

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Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

#32

Gmail's user base = billions of people. A few hundred upset users can be misleading.

Or, representative.

This only means many users are upset.

But even if they were 100,000, that would be a small fraction of the user base and you could still say the user base is either indifferent or satisfied with the change.

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

#33
I don’t understand why gmail ties their functionality to skins so much in gmail. This is the third time they’ve forced a UI change for no functional reason, just that they wanted easier maintenance.

I really got bugged in 2011 when they got rid of their terminal theme [0].

I don’t think this is a UI issue, I think it’s just poor design where a skin would somehow not perform well. It seems pretty easy to maintain different simple skins or to provide an API.

[0] https://productforums.google.com/forum/?noredirect=true#!top...

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

#34
post #12

For me it's not about look but speed: Gmail simply can't put text in the compose box as fast as I can type it. Gmail is the slowest web app I use. From what I've read Google, for whatever reason, don't care about Gmail perf and use slow deprecated APIs in Firefox and Edge even when faster ones are available. The DOM looks like garbage with massive amounts of unnecessary elements. It's basically the opposite pf everyt…

Don't get me started about the compose box (really any text box with their "rich text" implementation). It is terrible.

Like you said, the input alone has crazy latency. But the logic built into their formatting sends me through the roof most of the time.

Don't want bold text? Too bad, you're getting bold text because you enabled bold text one time about 10 minutes ago. Even though you disabled bold text, like, a second after you enabled it, you just now hit the enter key so you get bold text! And don't you even think about returning to non-formatted typing after you just pasted-in some text which may or may not have had formatting applied even though you did the very special kind of paste where plain, non-formatted text is supposed to be rendered!

Clearly, it has affected me.

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

#35
post #18

Everyone hates UI changes. Wait 6 months and it will be the new normal.

Seriously, every time big company does large UX change, there is a post like this asking how to revert. Sources: Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/help/community/question/?id=1020032... Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/redesign/comments/8w03ms/is_it_poss...

Old reddit is still available and still better.

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

#36
post #21

Everyone hates UI changes. Wait 6 months and it will be the new normal.

It will be the normal, but this has been a disaster. The fact that I get a loading indicator in an email is ridiculously annoying.

Why can't it continue loading in the background after it shows the first screen?

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

#37
Scrolling the list of emails is very choppy on Safari, and works on Chrome and Firefox. How annoying. We're entering a new browser monoculture where something only has to work on Chrome :/

I think it's a good time to test out a few self-hosted email clients, perhaps storing emails on a mail server that retrieves incoming mail from gmail, and sends out via gmail as well to avoid the authentication/blacklisting/spam filtering hassles.

RainLoop looks pretty good for a web client. Any suggestions on clients or mail servers (only to fetch mail from gmail or outlook)?

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, representative.

This only means many users are upset. But even if they were 100,000, that would be a small fraction of the user base and you could still say the user base is either indifferent or satisfied with the change.

>But even if they were 100,000

That would still be representative. A sample. I don't understand your argument.

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

#39

Same thing happened with Google maps a couple of years ago. They changed the UI to one a lot less functional, gave users an option to use the old UI for a while, then took it away. Now we're stuck with gmaps that are much worse than they used to be. Product managers at Google (and everywhere else) don't get promoted for leaving good products alone.

The layout takes up more of the screen, which I kinda like, but my issue was always how terrible terribly slow it is now. It's so laggy, compared to competitors like Here and OSM. The Fruit co could probably give Google a run if they opened up a web version.

Google Maps on Android is almost entirely unusable now. It's so god damn slow on my Sony Z5c running Lineage. The combination of Maps and Google Services updates has thrown any type of efficiency out the window.

New releases should use less memory and be faster, especially if they do the exact same god damn thing! Google doesn't care, because they expect users to migrate to newer phones every two years. I don't want to generate more e-waste, have repaired several things on my phone several times and don't want to just consume consume consume.

It'd be nice if there was some company to take up that space and create more tools that run on older devices, but unfortunately there'd be no real way to make money at it; no one is demanding it em mass.

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