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The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

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Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

#31

Is this really considered a perk? It is a bit like getting paid is a perk. I work in Germany where direct access to natural sunlight is part of our OH&S policies.

Thank you, I wanted to point this out too. Awkward how other countries think about work environments.

Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

#33
post #7

In some civilized countries natural light is actually a requirement, by law. Not in the server closet etc, but in your office it is. You can, of course, adjust the curtains or whatever to get the exact amount you prefer (which typically changes throughout the day, as the sun passes)

Of all the thing that make me thing "there ought to be a law" natural light seems like it should be way down the priority list. edit: And yes, I've worked in places with and without natural light, both white collar jobs and near minimum wage jobs. Comfortable temperature for the amount of physical activity I'm being asked to do and a comfortable amount of space in which to work are both a million times more important…

There are laws for way sillier things. Something that has strong health benefits (see the research cited) for such a low cost strikes me as an obvious thing to legislate, if you're going to legislate worker protection at all.

Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

#35
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did an internship last year which consisted in writing unit tests for a raytracing library that was among other things - I was told - used to determine if buildings were on paper getting enough sunlight according to european standards. I'm not sure whether they were talking about EU regulations or about the regulations of specific european countries. Edit: typos

From my basement in London: Probably specific countries.

Is it an old building? There are some basement offices in London, and presumably other countries, with either no windows or pointlessly small/ineffective ones (like those little glass blocks you see on the pavement occasionally). I wonder if light regulations would have to have exclusions for old buildings that are impractical to change (a bit like minimum platform widths at train stations don't apply to some old stations).

Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

#36

Every day I am the first to show up at my company, and I get maybe ~ 1 hour of nice, quiet work time with low lighting from the windows with overhead lights off. Then the second person who comes in every day shows up and flips all the overhead lights on every god damn day. When I’m working and the lights flip, I get a sense of rage and depression. I think it will be the reason why I quit this job.

I don't want to condescend but have you tried talking to the person switching on the lights? Maybe you could come to a compromise.

Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

#37
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did an internship last year which consisted in writing unit tests for a raytracing library that was among other things - I was told - used to determine if buildings were on paper getting enough sunlight according to european standards. I'm not sure whether they were talking about EU regulations or about the regulations of specific european countries. Edit: typos

From my basement in London: Probably specific countries.

I think there are at least two separate issues here; some countries have health and safety laws requiring natural light, while others require natural light in newly-built offices (as a condition of planning etc). Can you build an office in London these days that doesn't have natural light in the main spaces? I'd be sceptical.

Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

#38
post #7

In some civilized countries natural light is actually a requirement, by law. Not in the server closet etc, but in your office it is. You can, of course, adjust the curtains or whatever to get the exact amount you prefer (which typically changes throughout the day, as the sun passes)

Of all the thing that make me thing "there ought to be a law" natural light seems like it should be way down the priority list. edit: And yes, I've worked in places with and without natural light, both white collar jobs and near minimum wage jobs. Comfortable temperature for the amount of physical activity I'm being asked to do and a comfortable amount of space in which to work are both a million times more important…

This wouldn't be regulated if this wasn't a problem. There are a lot of "silly" things in workplace regulations precisely because employers tried to take them away.

Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

#39
Not a perk. I fired an employer for failing to provide natural sunlight for a reasonable amount of time throughout the day. I’ve also rejected offers involving lack of sunlight. One place adjusted to this requirement quite well. Apparently I was the first candidate to even bring this up when I asked about the working environment.

The cost to my health is measurable.

Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

#40
post #7

In some civilized countries natural light is actually a requirement, by law. Not in the server closet etc, but in your office it is. You can, of course, adjust the curtains or whatever to get the exact amount you prefer (which typically changes throughout the day, as the sun passes)

Of all the thing that make me thing "there ought to be a law" natural light seems like it should be way down the priority list. edit: And yes, I've worked in places with and without natural light, both white collar jobs and near minimum wage jobs. Comfortable temperature for the amount of physical activity I'm being asked to do and a comfortable amount of space in which to work are both a million times more important…

There's a fair bit of evidence that not seeing natural light has health effects, AIUI. In that sense, it's just like any other workplace health and safety rule.
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