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Re: Australia’s Proposed Surveillance Laws Will Break the Trust Tech Depends On

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That’s an excellent point. I may not renew with them, and it has nothing to do with FastMail themselves. Australia seems like precisely the right-sized society to be affected by pushback against this sort of behavior without being large enough to overwhelm outside opposition.

So, what FastMail alternatives are there to be recommended?

Maybe ProtonMail?

Re: Australia’s Proposed Surveillance Laws Will Break the Trust Tech Depends On

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Well that's dark. Unfortunately, I suspect Canada is not far from proposing a similar bill. Currently the federal liberals are working on an Anti-Foreign Interference bill that plans on clamping down on free speech in social media in a very serious way. Scary times, authoritarianism sneaks in.

Free speech in Australia is weak. The constitution is excited about voting as protected speech. But not for private individuals. It takes acts of state governments to provide the necessary framework.

For those playing along for the thrill of reading long text: https://www.humanrights.gov.au/freedom-information-opinion-a...

Re: Australia’s Proposed Surveillance Laws Will Break the Trust Tech Depends On

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s an excellent point. I may not renew with them, and it has nothing to do with FastMail themselves. Australia seems like precisely the right-sized society to be affected by pushback against this sort of behavior without being large enough to overwhelm outside opposition.

So, what FastMail alternatives are there to be recommended?

I use Runbox. Interface is not as slick but service is excellent.

Re: Australia’s Proposed Surveillance Laws Will Break the Trust Tech Depends On

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only the usa compares freedom with firearms ownership. this is slightly offtopic here.

I mean, why shouldn't you have guns? As a counterpoint, gun culture (sports and hunting) is really strong here in Finland. Removing people's rights to do what they want is infringing on freedom, and often for no real purpose.

There’s a strong gun culture in Australia as well, and as an Australian, and a gun owner, I am perfectly fine with not being able to have an assault rifle. Because no one else can either, and schools don’t get shot up

Re: Australia’s Proposed Surveillance Laws Will Break the Trust Tech Depends On

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Always find it amazing how strong the urge to authoritarianism is in Australia. You'd think we'd all be larrikins and chilled out on the beach inviting newcomers to the barbie. But no, we're apparently terrified of immigrants and love nothing more than the smack of firm leadership.

I've been hearing more and more recently from ex-journos etc. on Twitter and other platforms suggesting that there is a huge echo chamber in Canberra between the press gallery and the politicians, and in general they regard the population to be a lot more right-wing and a lot more biased towards authoritarianism than they actually are... I think everything from this massive overreach of surveillance, to the same-sex…

a recently graduated Masters of Political Science guy gave a talk at a very sophisticated data conference in San Francisco last year.. several people in the audience expressed distress at some trends in politics, with appropriate manners.. and the short take away from the speaker was basically: there are always ill-effects in political matters, but democratic participation is like a water level in a lake.. more participation tends to dilute the ever-present negatives, cover and integrate the harsh (dangerous?) features into a larger, more stable common. The opposite is also true -- that less participation leads to strong 'pollutants' and more sharp or harsh features.

Re: Australia’s Proposed Surveillance Laws Will Break the Trust Tech Depends On

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

only the usa compares freedom with firearms ownership. this is slightly offtopic here.

I mean, why shouldn't you have guns? As a counterpoint, gun culture (sports and hunting) is really strong here in Finland. Removing people's rights to do what they want is infringing on freedom, and often for no real purpose.

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Re: Australia’s Proposed Surveillance Laws Will Break the Trust Tech Depends On

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post #36

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I mean, why shouldn't you have guns? As a counterpoint, gun culture (sports and hunting) is really strong here in Finland. Removing people's rights to do what they want is infringing on freedom, and often for no real purpose.

There’s a strong gun culture in Australia as well, and as an Australian, and a gun owner, I am perfectly fine with not being able to have an assault rifle. Because no one else can either, and schools don’t get shot up

Yeah no one else accept criminals and government agents. Both groups which time has herald as completely wise never failing institutions of freedom and safety.

/s

Re: Australia’s Proposed Surveillance Laws Will Break the Trust Tech Depends On

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Most of Australia was fine with this.

As an Australian, who has many issues with these surveillance laws, I'm also 100% behind our gun control.

What do you see as the difference between them?
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