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My life with 12 programmers, 2 rooms and one 21st-century dream (2016)
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Re: My life with 12 programmers, 2 rooms and one 21st-century dream (2016)
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why can’t you go back? Did you move?
Haha, I could go back, except for maybe my pride. I only left for what I thought was a good opportunity personally. (still up for debate on whether it was or not). I don't hate my current job, but my current employer has reached out to most devs on my old team and I've made sure to contact them and explain that it's a huge mistake to leave. Life is still good. My schedule is still fantastic, but I am missing that cer…
We call it a "boomerang" where I work, and it's not a sign of failure-- it's something we celebrate. We get a lot of boomerangs who leave for a year or two and then come back to work with us again. It's the highest form of flattery when they like us so much they come back. :)
Re: My life with 12 programmers, 2 rooms and one 21st-century dream (2016)
#33I call bushit on this story. This article is greatly exaggerated to grab your attention.
$1.4k for a closet in an Airbnb with 13 people, where you don't get a key and have to sneak in? Heh.
I have found a large room in a newer complex through a company pairing roommates in just a few days. It was $1800. Heck, you could pay $1k for a room in Berkely or Oakland and commute in by Bart.
Re: My life with 12 programmers, 2 rooms and one 21st-century dream (2016)
#34Posts like these really continue drive home the message of "Silicon Valley is just a shell of what it used to be. Only go there for the sake of relocation or with a job offer in hand." There's nothing left for the dreamers or hopefuls in SV who have nothing to run on but just that--hopes and dreams. It just makes so much more sense to take a pay cut and swing for the fences in Atlanta, Houston, Austin, or Phoenix. He…
Austin is a great place to do this type of homerun attempt without experience. There are some nice start up jobs there, and the costs are way lower. I went from Austin - > sf and while I'm still in the career-building phase here in sf, it's not so desperate that I am living in a closet. So I was lucky that I came from Austin first with some experience already. But this is a really bad city to build something out of nothing. The costs are stupid, even when you see a rent like "only $1,200 a month!" it's likely that the deposit is ridiculous too. The transportation is great, but it depends on where you are in the city. I luckily get on the bus at the start of its route so I always get a seat, but if I was a few blocks down when the bus was already packed like sardines, I'd hate it.
Train is the same. You have to go out so far to be comfortable that your commute goes into the hours mark. SV is just insane for someone that doesn't already have an established career. I know I would have burned out already if I didn't have the experience from Austin already.
Re: My life with 12 programmers, 2 rooms and one 21st-century dream (2016)
#35I call bushit on this story. This article is greatly exaggerated to grab your attention. $1.4k for a closet in an Airbnb with 13 people, where you don't get a key and have to sneak in? Heh. I have found a large room in a newer complex through a company pairing roommates in just a few days. It was $1800. Heck, you could pay $1k for a room in Berkely or Oakland and commute in by Bart.
There are $1k rooms in Berkeley?
Re: My life with 12 programmers, 2 rooms and one 21st-century dream (2016)
#36Is this fairly common in the valley?
...I don't think so? Or at least, it's totally alien to me as someone who's spent ~6 years in SF tech. 1,200 $/mo is more than enough to get a room to yourself in the nice neighborhoods; admittedly, you'll need to put in the time on craigslist to find sublets, "interview" with potential roommates, etc. I can see if you're desperate to find a place in a hurry, an airBnB like this might make sense for a month, but more…
> 1,200 $/mo is more than enough to get a room to yourself in the nice neighborhoods
One of the difficulties potential renters can run into, especially ones from out of town, is that no matter how nice the neighborhood is from a residential standpoint, it might be much less nice from a commuting standpoint (be it work or the coding bootcamp).
Whenever I try it, I find public transit within SF to be remarkably time-consuming, even to travel short distances. That means living outside the city can be both cheaper and result in a shorter (time, not distance) commute, which might seem counter-intuitive.
Re: My life with 12 programmers, 2 rooms and one 21st-century dream (2016)
#37I call bushit on this story. This article is greatly exaggerated to grab your attention. $1.4k for a closet in an Airbnb with 13 people, where you don't get a key and have to sneak in? Heh. I have found a large room in a newer complex through a company pairing roommates in just a few days. It was $1800. Heck, you could pay $1k for a room in Berkely or Oakland and commute in by Bart.
Lol, your situation doesn't sound a whole lot better. I assume for $400 more he could have graduated to a full sized room.
Re: My life with 12 programmers, 2 rooms and one 21st-century dream (2016)
#38This really is only one small segment of the programming population. I really hate superficial shit like this that paints tech workers in a bad light bc most have ordinary jobs and live ordinary lives and aren’t social recluses. I work typical 9-5, wife and kids. We go grocery shopping and make dinner every night together. We live very modestly and we have lots of non-tech friends and family. It’s literaly nothing sp…
What part of the country do you work in? I think this is specific to the bay area. It could be different in Austin or Chicago or even NY. If you haven't experienced the startup life in the bay area you shouldn't knock his experience.
Re: My life with 12 programmers, 2 rooms and one 21st-century dream (2016)
#39Is this fairly common in the valley?
There is no way this is common. I don't know anyone who knows anyone who lives in this situation.
Re: My life with 12 programmers, 2 rooms and one 21st-century dream (2016)
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Haha, I could go back, except for maybe my pride. I only left for what I thought was a good opportunity personally. (still up for debate on whether it was or not). I don't hate my current job, but my current employer has reached out to most devs on my old team and I've made sure to contact them and explain that it's a huge mistake to leave. Life is still good. My schedule is still fantastic, but I am missing that cer…
We call it a "boomerang" where I work, and it's not a sign of failure-- it's something we celebrate. We get a lot of boomerangs who leave for a year or two and then come back to work with us again. It's the highest form of flattery when they like us so much they come back. :)
In my old company (consulting), they actually like it a lot. People leave and then return with new experience and a few things that can be learned from.