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Did you create this comment exclusively for the love of creating a comment?
What would be another motivation? Certainly not money or fame.
The Social Network scriptwriter Aaron Sorkin posts about the portrayal of women.
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>There is no us and them, no global jocks vs geeks battle being waged here. And you think the Engineers vs. sales is really all that different? I mean, being as we are adults now we can largely avoid oneanother, but as far as I can tell, the style vs. substance battle continues apace.
Engineers and salespeople generally have different personalities, don’t enjoy hanging out with one another, and look down on one another’s interests, but that doesn’t make it a versus thing. As adults we are no longer competing directly with one another for status.
As adults we are no longer competing directly with one another for status.
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Please read the guidelines, where it says, "Resist complaining about being downmodded. It never does any good..." You're currently at 3 points, 15 minutes in. http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html The perspective you mentioned is well-known to anyone. (At least I hear it more often than I hear from actual feminists.) If people want to spend their time responding to you, they will; there's no need to generate lon…
> Please read the guidelines You've been here 170 days? Well, welcome, but it's fairly standard practice to add a quick edit to let people know you're looking for discussion instead of trying to stir up trouble after attempting to write a thoughtful-yet-controversial comment. It shows you're looking to have discussion instead of just get a rise out of people. > The perspective you mentioned is well-known to anyone. (…
I agree that banning meta-discussion and positing '[it] never does any good' is on the totalitarian side as a guideline.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
>There is no us and them, no global jocks vs geeks battle being waged here. And you think the Engineers vs. sales is really all that different? I mean, being as we are adults now we can largely avoid oneanother, but as far as I can tell, the style vs. substance battle continues apace.
Engineers and salespeople generally have different personalities, don’t enjoy hanging out with one another, and look down on one another’s interests, but that doesn’t make it a versus thing. As adults we are no longer competing directly with one another for status.
You might not be competing, but I am certainly competing for status, mates, sex, money and all that. Yes it is definitely a vs. thing. I compete against every adult male in my proximity, whether he be sales, engineering, or janitor.
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#35> Facebook was born during a night of incredibly misogyny. The idea of comparing women to farm animals, and then to each other, based on their looks and then publicly ranking them. It was a revenge stunt, aimed first at the woman who'd most recently broke his heart (who should get some kind of medal for not breaking his head) and then at the entire female population of Harvard. What a bunch of pretentious self import…
Immature female behavior? What, no, that doesn't happen. What are you, a sexist or something? Immature female behavior is actually celebrated . Look at Sex and the City , which is all about four middle-aged, presumably successful women acting like vapid teenagers, and this is supposed to be empowering and inspiring.
Immature male behaviour is celebrated as well. Look at all the tv shows that portray some men as boys who haven't been able to put away their video games and other toys. They too act like vapid teenagers ;/
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Engineers and salespeople generally have different personalities, don’t enjoy hanging out with one another, and look down on one another’s interests, but that doesn’t make it a versus thing. As adults we are no longer competing directly with one another for status.
As adults we are no longer competing directly with one another for status. Oh look, an idealist who never opened a Psychology or Anthropology book.
As an adult engineer, I feel myself in status competition with other engineers: I want to be recognized as a better engineer than they are. The salespeople just aren’t on my radar.
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#37The rules for all of this are already described in John Fonte's Why There is A Culture War:
http://www.hoover.org/publications/policy-review/article/780...
The movie was not sufficiently critical of hegemonic values to reach the threshold of cultural acceptability.
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As adults we are no longer competing directly with one another for status. Oh look, an idealist who never opened a Psychology or Anthropology book.
As an adult engineer, I feel myself in status competition with other engineers : I want to be recognized as a better engineer than they are. The salespeople just aren’t on my radar.
> The salespeople just aren’t on my radar.
That is one reason why salesfolk typically make more than engineers....
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Immature female behavior? What, no, that doesn't happen. What are you, a sexist or something? Immature female behavior is actually celebrated . Look at Sex and the City , which is all about four middle-aged, presumably successful women acting like vapid teenagers, and this is supposed to be empowering and inspiring.
Immature male behaviour is celebrated as well. Look at all the tv shows that portray some men as boys who haven't been able to put away their video games and other toys. They too act like vapid teenagers ;/
True, but if you criticize the 'Sex in the City' immaturity, you are lambasted. If you criticize the immature male behavior, you are celebrated. [in popular culture]
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#40"More generally, I was writing about a very angry and deeply misogynistic group of people. These aren't the cuddly nerds we made movies about in the 80's. They're very angry that the cheerleader still wants to go out with the quarterback instead of the men (boys) who are running the universe right now." This is a gross overgeneralization, and also the biggest fault of the movie. That Zuck's drive to build Facebook is…
I completely agree, the way I've always perceived mark zuckerberg is as someone just pretty obsessed with building & tinkering.
Sure maybe the initial spark that seeded the first build of facebook could have had something to do with emotions, but that couldn't possibly motivate someone long enough to continue running & noodling with a product long after its proven to be a multi-billion dollar company.