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Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by krylon » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 6:36 PM UTC

mprev wrote: post #11

I moved to a Mac after a decade of Linux on the desktop. After years of fiddling with drivers, crappy trackpad behaviours and so on, I wanted a computer that got out of my way and just worked. MacOS is far from perfect but it works perfectly with Apple hardware. If I wanted to go back to seeing my operating system as a hobby then Linux would be mostly a better option.

It's funny, but after four years on macOS, I returned to GNU/Linux about 16 months ago, and I have not looked back since. Okay, there are a few things I miss, but all in all, there was more I missed on macOS than I now miss on GNU/Linux.

And I do not consider spending a weekend (or longer) to get my sound chip working fun any more. I am too old for that stuff. Maybe I just have a lucky hand picking hardware, but except for the nVidia driver, hardware has just worked(tm) for me.

Don't get me wrong, if you are happy on macOS, by all means, enjoy it. But the old cliche that getting hardware to work on GNU/Linux is not true these days.

But I do agree, macOS without the tight integration between hardware and OS seems pointless.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by blacksmith_tb » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 6:36 PM UTC

bumholio wrote: post #19

fredley wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate MacOS and the way it's getting worse every release, but I don't hate it nearly as much as Windows, and how much Windows is getting worse every release.

This generalized hate towards change is typically a symptom of age, not technology. It happens to the best of us.

That's a bit too flip, I think - surely people are entitled to dislike some changes? Or is all change equally good? I would agree that macOS has gotten buggier and less flexible, and those don't seem to me to be positive changes.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by saagarjha » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 6:37 PM UTC

spork12 wrote: post #27

collinf wrote: post #7

Couldn't help but notice the irony behind this post in your "Previous Posts" section: https://martinhering.me/post/0/everything-thats-wrong-with-h... Also, I've always been curious what the process for upgrading to new OS versions on a Hackintosh is like. Is it expected that once you get the machine in a working state, you are better off not to touch it?

You can upgrade like you would on normal mac hardware

…but things often break, do they not?

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by mikestew » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 6:38 PM UTC

bumholio wrote: post #19

fredley wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate MacOS and the way it's getting worse every release, but I don't hate it nearly as much as Windows, and how much Windows is getting worse every release.

This generalized hate towards change is typically a symptom of age, not technology. It happens to the best of us.

To rephrase, you're saying everything is hunky-dory in Mac and Windows Land, and you look forward to every new release as a breath of fresh air of new functionality. To feel otherwise is to be an old fuddy-duddy.

I don't know that I could argue that your opinion is mainstream, at least not here.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by johnbellone » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 6:39 PM UTC

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #4

I'm still using the tower version of Mac Pro with High Sierra and it rocks. I upgraded RAM to 32 GB and the Xeon processors handle everything I throw at them. Opening it and changing drives is a pure pleasure. I really, really don't understand why Apple gave up on these towers and came up with something as inflexible as the current design.

I am using this model as well, but I've added a bunch of cards and replaced the BT module so that I could get Handoff support. The biggest downside right now is the fact that the motherboard is SATA2 instead of SATA3. The disk speed is abysmal.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by iseyler » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 6:39 PM UTC

fetus8 wrote: post #9

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #4

I'm still using the tower version of Mac Pro with High Sierra and it rocks. I upgraded RAM to 32 GB and the Xeon processors handle everything I throw at them. Opening it and changing drives is a pure pleasure. I really, really don't understand why Apple gave up on these towers and came up with something as inflexible as the current design.

Would you mind sharing the model num of the Mac Pro your using?

I'm not the OP but I use a 2008 Mac Pro: https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/specs/mac-pro-eig... 8 cores, 32GB of RAM, 4 SATA drive slots - found it used for only $400 CAD.

A 2010 or newer Mac Pro would allow you to run the latest macOS version.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by tokenizerrr » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 6:40 PM UTC

peatmoss wrote: post #14

Most people invoking a moral imperative to not make hackintoshes are coming from the angle that it’s stealing from Apple. I look at it another way. Apple, as a company is failing to meet the needs of some of its users: - You can’t get an upgradable pro machine - you can’t get a good keyboard (for some definitions of good) - macOS gets more iOS-ified with each release and some people don’t like that Every Hackintosh c…

I really don't get why I would want to run an operating system where the vendor refuses to support my hardware.

Also, the font color on this blog is absolutely horrible.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by djsumdog » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 6:40 PM UTC

ironjunkie wrote: post #6

I really don't get it. The biggest appeal of Apple is their wonderful hardware. I dislike MacOS and it has been worse over the last years. It seems to me that a Hackintosh is the worst of both worlds. If you spend that much time hacking around the hardware anyways, why not use Linux ?

I agree. I ran a Hackintosh off of a GA-P35 motherboard for years (Snow Leopard/10.6). I then scaled down to leave the country and switched on a real Mac running 10.7. Big fucking mistake. Lion was terrible. No expose. Only one row of workspaces. Mission control. And there was no way to downgrade back to 10.6!

Oh and I also made the mistake of going from Final Cut 7 to Final Cut X. To be fair, I did edit two complete videos before going back to 7 and eventually ditching Final Cut entirely. FCX is terrible.

Shortly after I started running Linux in a VM and got into i3/tiling window managers. Every iteration of macOS has gotten worse and worse.

If you really like macOS, then maybe it's worth it to run a hackintosh. I run Win 10 for games and video editing and Linux for absolutely everything else.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by mitchtbaum » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 6:42 PM UTC

Anyone have an ultrabook with macOS?

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by greedo » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 6:42 PM UTC

bumholio wrote: post #19

fredley wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate MacOS and the way it's getting worse every release, but I don't hate it nearly as much as Windows, and how much Windows is getting worse every release.

This generalized hate towards change is typically a symptom of age, not technology. It happens to the best of us.

I've disliked change since I was a teenager. Perhaps you're making a generalization?