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Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by kayone »

rayiner wrote: post #11

> App Actions is a new way to raise the visibility of your app and drive engagement. Actions take advantage of machine learning to surface your app to the user at just the right time, based on your app's semantic intents and the user's context. Aside from the unnecessary jargon, this irks me how it portrays the user as some passive consumer. It really drives home how Google is, first and foremost, an advertising comp…

I don't really see any difference besides what appears to be your own personal bias.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by DennisAleynikov »

mkirklions wrote: post #18
DennisAleynikov wrote: post #7

I'm no longer surprised that Samsung doesn't feel the need to update to the latest version of Android! Grace UX (their skin) already had all of these features as of last year. I do not see anything worth upgrading for here. Potentially huge for people buying the notched phones. The support for that did improve in this update.

Curious what others think of samsung hardware on HN. Ive had: >S5 phone whos charging port broke and had terrible battery life. But hey, when I bought the phone the screen was bright and beautiful... I feel like I was tricked >My SSD failed in a year >My grandpa's 1,000 dollar samsung TV he bought in 2018 has an irresponsibly slow smart TV. And I read some horror stories about samsung home appliances when I was looki…

It sounds to me like a lot of issues were had. I'm sure Samsung isn't for everyone but as a poweruser nothing remotely compares to the speed, power and reliability Samsung devices give me.

My favorite feature is by far Samsung Pay, it's completely replaced my wallet.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by bitmapbrother »

tjungblut wrote: post #8
abhiminator wrote: post #5

Surprised with the naming, did Google just miss a great opportunity for collaborating with candy manufacturers like they did with Nestle for Android 4.4 'KitKat'?

me too, but what would be a world-renowned candy that starts with 'P'?

Pie seems consistent with their infatuation of the number and it just makes sense from a dessert naming perspective.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by makmanalp »

mmastrac wrote: post #4

One of the quieter features of Android 9 is that they are reducing the API surface of Android by explicitly black-listing and white-listing various APIs and fields that previously required reflection to access. None of these APIs were documented, but none of them were explicitly "off limits" before Android P. That suggests that the life of Java as Android's primary language might be really coming to an end, even thou…

> That suggests that the life of Java as Android's primary language might be really coming to an end

Huh - how did you get to this conclusion? What would be the alternative? Do you mean Java was essentially "better" because it had access to all the undocumented APIs while other languages didn't?

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by wyldfire »

EpicBlackCrayon wrote: post #30

Did anyone see these privacy changes? https://developer.android.com/about/versions/p/android-9.0-c... * Limited access to sensors in background * Restricted access to call logs * Restricted access to phone numbers * Restricted access to Wi-Fi location and connection information * Information removed from Wi-Fi service methods * Telephony information now relies on device location setting

These are awesome. Android is slowly catching up with iOS in this regard.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by hateful »

> We partnered with DeepMind on a feature called Adaptive Battery that uses machine learning to prioritize system resources for the apps the user cares about most.

You know what mind I would like to control what apps get more resources?

Me

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by DennisAleynikov »

untog wrote: post #12
DennisAleynikov wrote: post #7

I'm no longer surprised that Samsung doesn't feel the need to update to the latest version of Android! Grace UX (their skin) already had all of these features as of last year. I do not see anything worth upgrading for here. Potentially huge for people buying the notched phones. The support for that did improve in this update.

Surely the headline features here are the machine learning everything, not really the UI tweaks?

You're right, but Samsung features go beyond UI changes. I am locked into the Samsung ecosystem by a few of these intangibles. Like: Samsung Pay (works on credit card readers) Samsung DeX (Chromebook in your pocket) Samsung Pass (auto fill with Iris scanning)

Some of these features are made by other companies like, Huawei makes a Chromebook style UI too, but Iris scanning and Magnetic Payments are exclusive to Samsung platform.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by 555513 »

DennisAleynikov wrote: post #28
wvenable wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The general consensus amount Samsung users from my experience is that that they do these features better than Google. Samsung's multi-window support was better than eventually came to Android. Samsung's handling of app badges was WAY better (message counts!) and that went away with Oreo's terrible implementation (a dot indicating un-dismissed notifications). My impression after upgrading to Oreo and getting more Goog…

My feelings exactly, Google literally plays catch up to Samsung in terms of features in it's OS and it's phones. So really I feel sorry for those poor people using Pixel 2 XL which has been slowed down to a crawl by the updates Google pushes out on the regular.

Are you talking for all of us XL 2 users ? Not a single slow down on mine, thanks. Was on beta the first day it was available.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by fixermark »

hateful wrote: post #36

> We partnered with DeepMind on a feature called Adaptive Battery that uses machine learning to prioritize system resources for the apps the user cares about most. You know what mind I would like to control what apps get more resources? Me

Not most people though. There was a time when in MacOS, one could manually limit the amount of memory a program was launched into by setting the required and preferred memory footprint.

But that kind of low-level stuff isn't something most people care about or want to do. They just want the damn thing to work.

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