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Re: CS Unplugged: Computer Science Without a Computer

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Post by zaarn »

maemre wrote: post #24
dronescanfly wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess there are people who have sunlight allergies. Wanna ban sunlight in australian schools?

Well, peanut allergy is lethal and can be triggered by even inhalation of peanut dust in more severe cases. Sensitivity to sunlight is way more manageable (by applying sunscreen and covering the skin) and although kids share food and/or eat them in the same environment I don't think they're carrying UV lights to apply to other kids.

There is plenty of other potentially lethal allergies that can be just as severe, singling out peanuts is overkill as I mentioned in a sibling thread. (Soy, milk, wheat, gluten. Especially wheat allergy can cause reactions just as severe as the stereotypical peanut allergy)

edit: Note that an allergy to sunlight exposure (which is a thing) is not simply treated with sun cream

Re: CS Unplugged: Computer Science Without a Computer

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Post by Bromskloss »

fnord123 wrote: post #28
white-flame wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love for "Computology" to become the preferred term.

Computational Science.

Dijkstra preferred "computing science", didn't he?

Now, calling it "science" at all is problematic if you don't consider mathematics to be a science.

Re: CS Unplugged: Computer Science Without a Computer

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Post by rypskar »

zaarn wrote: post #31
maemre wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, peanut allergy is lethal and can be triggered by even inhalation of peanut dust in more severe cases. Sensitivity to sunlight is way more manageable (by applying sunscreen and covering the skin) and although kids share food and/or eat them in the same environment I don't think they're carrying UV lights to apply to other kids.

There is plenty of other potentially lethal allergies that can be just as severe, singling out peanuts is overkill as I mentioned in a sibling thread. (Soy, milk, wheat, gluten. Especially wheat allergy can cause reactions just as severe as the stereotypical peanut allergy) edit: Note that an allergy to sunlight exposure (which is a thing) is not simply treated with sun cream

>Soy, milk, wheat, gluten

Can they trigger reaction by simply having it in the room? I can get an allergic reaction from having peanuts in the same room as I'm in, in the same way as a reaction from pollen or from animals. So wonder if other food based allergy can have the same effect on others

Re: CS Unplugged: Computer Science Without a Computer

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Post by sandwell »

nutjob2 wrote: post #3

Computer science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes. - Dijkstra

Dijkstra met Mike Fellows (who co-authored the original CS Unplugged with Tim Bell) early in Michael's career, who originally quoted this, but it's often misattributed to Dijkstra as he is slightly more famous!

Tim Bell was on Changelog podcast #302 talking about CS Unplugged and mentioned this at some point.

Re: CS Unplugged: Computer Science Without a Computer

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Post by zaarn »

rypskar wrote: post #33
zaarn wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is plenty of other potentially lethal allergies that can be just as severe, singling out peanuts is overkill as I mentioned in a sibling thread. (Soy, milk, wheat, gluten. Especially wheat allergy can cause reactions just as severe as the stereotypical peanut allergy) edit: Note that an allergy to sunlight exposure (which is a thing) is not simply treated with sun cream

>Soy, milk, wheat, gluten Can they trigger reaction by simply having it in the room? I can get an allergic reaction from having peanuts in the same room as I'm in, in the same way as a reaction from pollen or from animals. So wonder if other food based allergy can have the same effect on others

For wheat, sure. Soy less sure, gluten and milk only on consumption.

Re: CS Unplugged: Computer Science Without a Computer

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Post by Wildgoose »

fnord123 wrote: post #28
white-flame wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love for "Computology" to become the preferred term.

Computational Science.

My degree is actually in "Computational Science" (University of Hull, England). However they decided to rename it to the standard "Computer Science" the year after I started.

Re: CS Unplugged: Computer Science Without a Computer

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Post by grimbly »

omaranto wrote: post #11
erk__ wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My professor says that it would be like calling astonomy telescope science. In Danish it is called "Datalogi" the teaching of data because the founder of danish computer science, Peter Nauer, called it that.

I also like wiskunde for mathematics, I've been told it means something like the study of certainty.

Wankunde, more like it.

Re: CS Unplugged: Computer Science Without a Computer

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Post by csours »

askvictor wrote: post #22
csours wrote: post #20

Inspired by this, I led a group of 5th graders and high school students through a "peanut butter and jelly sandwich robot" exercise. I had a blast and so did the kids. We had them list some steps to make a pb&j sandwich, and then I, as the robot acted the steps out as literally as possible. When they said "gather materials", I went around the room and picked up erasers, markers, water bottles; whatever I could find.…

Sounds awesome, but they let you have peanut butter in schools? In Australia nuts are banned in primary schools due to nut allergies.

I had a serious discussion with my colleague about this, which led to talking about engineering and regulatory constraints -

Marketing Analyst: We need to offer a peanut butter and jelly sandwich product on the market.

Compliance Analyst: We can't sell peanut butter in these markets, we need to use tahini instead.

Automation Engineer: Ok, we were able to make the robot work with mayonnaise and honey, all the other ingredients aren't working. Can we sell a mayonnaise and honey sandwich?

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