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Google Plans to Launch Censored Search Engine in China, Leaked Documents Reveal

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Re: Google Plans to Launch Censored Search Engine in China, Leaked Documents Reveal

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Each country has its own rules and for sure any company wishing to operate there should abide.

Be from North Korea or Cuba etc and then see if PayPal opens an account for you. I don't see PayPal fights for it, they simply abide the law and move on.

You have a company and the gov gives you tons of regulations that most of them are unfair? Your problem, take it or leave it.

Re: Google Plans to Launch Censored Search Engine in China, Leaked Documents Reveal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Why should there be a different standard for Google and other tech companies to not expand into China. This exactly. I would even make a stronger case. It's not fair to expect a technology company to fight a major world economic power. This is a failure of US and EU governments. They should pressure China to liberalize their government and provide a level economic playing field (it is insane what China gets away wit…

Neither US or EU are the world police. They have no rights and should not have any to pressure any country to push their own idea of how things should work in another country, just like how China and others don't demand such and even if they do that doesn't make it less wrong.

this is a weak argument, as it can be made for literally any situation.

Israel massacring Palestinians? Hey man, they can do whatever they want, we don't have any right to tell them not to and it doesn't make what they're doing any less wrong!

Re: Google Plans to Launch Censored Search Engine in China, Leaked Documents Reveal

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Why should there be a different standard for Google and other tech companies to not expand into China. If we have a problem with how their government works policy should be applied that prevents/manages how businesses subject to our laws operate abroad. The majority of people don't really care how corporations behave. If they did Google search/gmail/maps would not be so popular. They have the right price point(0$) fo…

Are you just asking why anyone should have any ethical standards at all? Presumably even you think there is some line a tech company shouldn't cross, right?

Absolutely there are lines companies should not cross but that's what we have laws and policy for. That's why we have GDPR/AML/Anti-Bribery/Anti-Corruption legislation. We all know they are wrong but we still have laws even if some of practices are accepted locally, small bribes etc.

Contrived example, if a printing company wanted to expand into China they would not be allowed print anti Chinese government documents. Would we be as up in arms about this or should there be a law saying that until China increases human rightsn EU/US companies can't work there and Chinese companies can't work/sell to EU/US?

Obviously this won't/can't happen given our dependence on cheap Chinese manufacturing and our need for year on year growth.

Re: Google Plans to Launch Censored Search Engine in China, Leaked Documents Reveal

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Why should there be a different standard for Google and other tech companies to not expand into China. This exactly. I would even make a stronger case. It's not fair to expect a technology company to fight a major world economic power. This is a failure of US and EU governments. They should pressure China to liberalize their government and provide a level economic playing field (it is insane what China gets away wit…

Neither US or EU are the world police. They have no rights and should not have any to pressure any country to push their own idea of how things should work in another country, just like how China and others don't demand such and even if they do that doesn't make it less wrong.

They actually are the world police. Sovereignty, nations, and conflict between them are part of human nature.

Re: Google Plans to Launch Censored Search Engine in China, Leaked Documents Reveal

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Why should there be a different standard for Google and other tech companies to not expand into China. If we have a problem with how their government works policy should be applied that prevents/manages how businesses subject to our laws operate abroad. The majority of people don't really care how corporations behave. If they did Google search/gmail/maps would not be so popular. They have the right price point(0$) fo…

"Don't be evil"

if you marketed yourself in such a way, you shouldn't be surprised if the general public applies different standards to you.

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Why should there be a different standard for Google and other tech companies to not expand into China. This exactly. I would even make a stronger case. It's not fair to expect a technology company to fight a major world economic power. This is a failure of US and EU governments. They should pressure China to liberalize their government and provide a level economic playing field (it is insane what China gets away wit…

Neither US or EU are the world police. They have no rights and should not have any to pressure any country to push their own idea of how things should work in another country, just like how China and others don't demand such and even if they do that doesn't make it less wrong.

If government can’t produce collective action, then market forces will never overcome the prisoners dilemma on its own.
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