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Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

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Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

#31

Does this seem a little like bit of gov't overreach? They're saying a business can't provide food to their employees? Am I missing something?

You are missing something.

This restriction was made, in exchange for letting the office be built.

They could have asked the Zuckerberg to do the chicken dance, for 10 minutes, in exchange for letting the office be built, if they wanted to.

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

#32
This seems silly. My company doesn't pay for food (chicago), we're right next to tons of options, but food is expensive. Most of us bring lunch from home. We live in the burbs and commute in. I don't see why workers would pay to eat out every day instead of bringing lunch. Maybe it's a SF thing that folks would be willing to waste that much money every day?

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

#33
post #19

Does this seem a little like bit of gov't overreach? They're saying a business can't provide food to their employees? Am I missing something?

This strikes me as an illegal regulation.

This was a contractual agreement, that Facebook agreed to, in exchange for allowing the office to be built.

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everywhere I've ever worked, >90% of people bring their meals to work >90% of the time. This sounds like another of those special microcosm "problems".

Where have you worked?

I've worked at over 10 companies in my life so far.

I've also done locum work in more than that.

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

#35

What's stopping companies from charging a cent per meal?

This is a good question. What stops companies from asking $100 per meal, and charge it on an employee account then reimburse the same amount every month to clear any tab? The free meals are taxable income anyway.

The ban on "company cafeterias" cannot possibly work, they will be simply replaced by separated business entities that happen to share the same building and have a financial arrangement like the one described. Pretty soon you will go full retard trying to stop this.

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This strikes me as an illegal regulation.

This was a contractual agreement, that Facebook agreed to, in exchange for allowing the office to be built.

You can't just put any arbitrary restriction in a contract that you feel like, particularly not when the party imposing the restriction has the coercive power of government or quasi-governmental entities on its side.

The classic example of this is the old-school homeowner's association covenant that forbade selling your house to people of a certain race.

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

#37
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I'm sorry but this is so f*cking stupid. As a Bay Area resident my priorities are the cost of housing, cleaning our dirty streets and alleviating traffic congestion. This is an example of progressivism gone awry. Solving the basics is incredibly important. Our quality of life is in decline (in the bay area) and this is the best our politicians can do? I'm enraged.

Your municipality does not have the legal or financial mechanisms to solve homelessness, housing, and traffic congestion. They are all natural consequences of economic and political decisions made higher up the food chain.

Truth be told, housing issues are very often local: zoning that prevents housing from being built.

Exhibit A: https://shift.newco.co/letter-of-resignation-from-the-palo-a...

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

#38
I live about 10 minutes from this location, and often frequent the restaurants there. It's smack dab in a high-traffic area (San Antonio+El Camino) and judging from the crowds, I can assure you that they get plenty of business already from the local community, even without Facebook.

That said, I would still have no problem if it was the landlord (WeWork) making this restriction, instead of the MTV government. This is a private business-to-business matter, and shouldn't be the domain of government.

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

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Sum that point of view across an entire population and we have the problems we have today. Your perspective bores me.

What baffles me is the perspective that: "Because can't fix these problems, everything that does is stupid and useless."

The city is responsible for the housing development. Not all of it but a lot of it. Same for homeless: the city can decide to address the problem by investing on affordable housing and assistance programs

Re: Bay Area cities are cracking down on free food at Facebook and other tech cos

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sum that point of view across an entire population and we have the problems we have today. Your perspective bores me.

What baffles me is the perspective that: "Because can't fix these problems, everything that does is stupid and useless."

Also get your data: if you don’t have free meal, you bring from home. This is what the vast majority does. And at the end of the day, this is a matter of freedom: if company X decides to offers free meal, what’s the problem? It creates jobs and attract people! Is this the country of freedom or this place incompetent administration wants to control what companies and people should do?
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