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How work kills us

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Re: How work kills us

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>> In the US, employment status and your employer determine your access to health-care I have spotted the problem. As usual, America wins the absurdity trophy.

Isn’t it case in most of the world, including many EU countries? Please don’t bring up the “free” healthcare, unviersal healthcare can really mistreat one for whom contributions are not paid.

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Re: How work kills us

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Let me tell you the secret - life as a process is killing you every moment. One can not exist without another. Jobs is just something we chose to spent our short time on, as well as few other things.

We choose to spend our time working? Only because there is no other reasonable option.

You can chose to not have a job. There are plenty of people like this. Yes, they don't have same amount of money and conveniences, but hey hey, this is your life and you only have one. If you see yourself being fulfilled by doing something else - no one can stop you.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know why a personal bankruptcy prevents you from being hired? That seems very weird, it should be completely separate from your work and can't in anyway harm your employer.

In the case of that company, they worked with finances and it makes me a 'risk'. Apparently exercising protection that dates back to antiquity makes you undesirable. My bankruptcy also prevents me from ever having a security clearance again as I'm considered a security risk (blackmail, my mom worked at DoD before she had to retire via disability and one of her co-workers got fired when her debt shot up post divorce a…

Wow, that's absolutely absurd. I essens what that company is saying is that their financial processes are so weak, that you alone could be a risk.

I can understand not wanting to hire you as a CFO or investment advisor, but that's about it.

Re: How work kills us

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Being unemployed might kill us even more. I'm not sure I understand the argument here. In Finnish there is a idiom_ "People have died at home as well" that captures this idea that doing stuff away from home is not necessary less safe than being at home - you can die at home as well.

Just vote for smarter politicians.

If you are out of job: - The goverment should pay your health insurance, or it should be free.

If you are in job: - You employer should pay your healh insurance (for GOVERMENT not for private indistry). The rate should be fixed or as fixed percentage of your income - the same no matter if you have any illness or not.

This system works in Europe flawlessly.

3 pillars of socialism:

- Free healthcare - Free education including university level education - Pension by goverment for ALL people who retire.

In communist countries we had it all since 1945...

Whats the point of goverment who is not giving you anything?

Re: How work kills us

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Let me tell you the secret - life as a process is killing you every moment. One can not exist without another. Jobs is just something we chose to spent our short time on, as well as few other things.

We choose to spend our time working? Only because there is no other reasonable option.

This is not entirely true. Sure, if you put on yourself tons of debt, then you have to work it off. Sure, if you really need to drive that fancy car, dine in good restaurants and wear expensive status stuff just to show off (to people you probably don't really care about), it costs.

But if you travel a bit around the world, you will meet a lot of people who didn't have a proper job for a decade or more. Maybe 1 month work and 6 months travel. Or just decide to live like a hermit someplace out there, anywhere. You won't find them on instagram much, I mean the serious bunch who are honest about this, but they are out there, proving it can be done.

But it requires sacrifices in some aspects of life, which might be too much to give up for most. I know it would be too much to give up for me at this point in life.

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>Second, employers affect the stress-inducing conditions of work: work-family conflict, long work hours, absence of control over one’s work environment, and economic insecurity. Stress makes people sick both directly and by inducing unhealthy individual behaviours such as smoking, drinking, and overeating. Not just stress, I simply hate my job. I'm stuck here, for 12 years now. "so get another job Ryan" bahahahaha yo…

> So I hate my job and no one else wants to even take a chance on me because I lack a degree, have a personal bankruptcy from 6 and a half years ago and have been in a niche job for 12 years.

I might be recalling wrong, but you might like to look into credit history law -- events like this expire after 7 years and so you could be in for a change.

Re: How work kills us

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>Second, employers affect the stress-inducing conditions of work: work-family conflict, long work hours, absence of control over one’s work environment, and economic insecurity. Stress makes people sick both directly and by inducing unhealthy individual behaviours such as smoking, drinking, and overeating. Not just stress, I simply hate my job. I'm stuck here, for 12 years now. "so get another job Ryan" bahahahaha yo…

Have you considered switching fields? For example, a good plasterer could make more money than an average software dev in NL.

Entering some skilled labor trade isn't exactly easy in the US, you've got tons of 18 year old sons and nephews gunning for internships that they'll gladly take before a 33 year old with no connection to the industry if you go the union route and if you don't go the union route there's tons and tons of cheap-laborers already for stuff like roofing or hanging drywall.

Re: How work kills us

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>Second, employers affect the stress-inducing conditions of work: work-family conflict, long work hours, absence of control over one’s work environment, and economic insecurity. Stress makes people sick both directly and by inducing unhealthy individual behaviours such as smoking, drinking, and overeating. Not just stress, I simply hate my job. I'm stuck here, for 12 years now. "so get another job Ryan" bahahahaha yo…

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There may be many reasons why some employers don't hire you, but don't forget that there are many reasons why they will hire you. Rejection doesn't mean that you are not a great person, it means that you, the company and the role might not be a good fit for each other. And that is OK. It's more than OK because you don't want to work for a place that isn't a great fit anyway. You want to find a great fit and you might have to hear NO 100 times before you get to 1 Hell Yeah! Flip that "no" around and use it as a reward for working hard, collect them and don't be afraid of them.

I've worked with people with all types of backgrounds, including people who went to federal prison and people without degrees. It is not about IF it's about WHEN. My suggestion is to start by going for walks, investing in yourself and if you are having a bad day there is no shame in reaching out for support. Literally everyone needs support.

One of the better people giving quality free advice on the internet these days is Gary Vaynerchuk, born in Belarusian and basically gave his services away for free for 10 years. I know you have skills, but you might need to give them away to build up a network. If you are on HN then you must have internet superpowers that you don't know you have.

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