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For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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I don't know about an LSD trip but I've often wondered what exactly a baby perceives while in the womb or as a newborn. Their brains aren't just sitting there as a blank state so they are experiencing something. I wouldn't at all be surprised if it's very trippy seeing as infants have literally nothing to hold onto to define reality as we see it.

I often watched my newborn staring off into empty space clearly perceiving /something/

Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

#33
post #17

I'm a bit confused... Isn't it an article encouraging consuming LSD?

Encouraging is a strong word, but if outlining the positive impact of something encourages you to consider it, is that bad?

It sure could be, if you take action without considering the negative impact as well.

Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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post #24

Fun thought: would chronic LSD administration (i.e. making a person never not be tripping for ~1mo at a time) enable language learning at the level babies are capable of?

Not sure if it's even possible. I heard that after taking LSD you can't really trip for a few days.

Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not calling this post out specifically, but drugs make for good clickbait. Drugs in general are 'in' right now, and i agree that it's pretty forced these days. I have a very small sample size, but the friends i have who tripped regularly (not just on lsd) went on to have serious mental health issues. I know correlation =! causation, but it scares me how big the drug culture is becoming. These drugs may have their pla…

Well, if by 'in right now' you mean at least 7k - 9k years you might be right [0][1]. If you believe what ethnobotanist like Terence Mckenna [2] say, then it's much older and has shaped the hominids evolution quite significantly. It seems almost all cultures found local hallucinogens and exploited them heavily for ceremony, healing etc and was strong part of who they were [3]. Anecdotally, I think hallucinogen just h…

>If you believe what ethnobotanist like Terence Mckenna Mckenna is interesting and should not be dismissed on principle but I warn people not familiar with his work not to take everything he said at face value, he was pretty "out there" and very mystic at times. He has interesting and thought provoking ideas but I wouldn't quote him out of context in an HN comment as an argument of authority.

Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not calling this post out specifically, but drugs make for good clickbait. Drugs in general are 'in' right now, and i agree that it's pretty forced these days. I have a very small sample size, but the friends i have who tripped regularly (not just on lsd) went on to have serious mental health issues. I know correlation =! causation, but it scares me how big the drug culture is becoming. These drugs may have their pla…

Well, if by 'in right now' you mean at least 7k - 9k years you might be right [0][1]. If you believe what ethnobotanist like Terence Mckenna [2] say, then it's much older and has shaped the hominids evolution quite significantly. It seems almost all cultures found local hallucinogens and exploited them heavily for ceremony, healing etc and was strong part of who they were [3]. Anecdotally, I think hallucinogen just h…

This is exactly what we mean by "kind of forced"

For most of history people didn't have the free time to be regularly using drugs the way some people today imply. If your life is farming from sunrise to sunset you're gonna need a lot of sleep and there isn't much time left to be tripping balls. You'll probably only can justify using your available free time to do whatever your local drug is at special occasions, whatever handful of religious holidays your culture has and maybe a handful of other times every year. Yes, there's downtime in the winter and summer but depending on the size of the family you have to support there's still an infinite list of things to do. There's always a leaking butter churn or cracked axle handle that needs fixing or a cart wheel that needs greasing. The time to just sit around and toke it up does not exist excerpt but for the few who prioritize that sort of recreation over improving their material situation. Responsible adults drink a few beers (or toke it up) on Friday night (with the definition of "few" depending on how many responsibilities you have). The vast majority of people weren't sitting around getting baked or drunk every other evening.

Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

#38
post #24

Fun thought: would chronic LSD administration (i.e. making a person never not be tripping for ~1mo at a time) enable language learning at the level babies are capable of?

All that would do is lead to severe memory loss and mental problems. Look up MKUltra.

Re: For babies, life may be like an LSD trip

#39
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not calling this post out specifically, but drugs make for good clickbait. Drugs in general are 'in' right now, and i agree that it's pretty forced these days. I have a very small sample size, but the friends i have who tripped regularly (not just on lsd) went on to have serious mental health issues. I know correlation =! causation, but it scares me how big the drug culture is becoming. These drugs may have their pla…

can confirm. Same with many of my friends. All heavy weed smokers, all used psychedelics. A worrying % went on to have some mental health issues. Now I know all the pro-weed people say "yeah but it is those pre-disposed to having schizophrenic episodes". Perhaps, but at the sample rate in my experience and others who have met later on the % is far higher than I would have expected to be. Same for just weed smoking. I…

You're putting the temporal cart before the causal horse. With or without drugs, mental health issues can be latent or unacknowledged for years. And without defending marijuana use, naïve -- even unconscious -- self-medication is a very simple explanation for what you're describing.
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