Best review of the shoes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXdxKamJDg8
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Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster
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#32I hope they somehow collected the official gun and chip times for those runners because the times and distances on Strava are never the official ones and can vary massively (GPS accuracy, when people pressed start on their watches and so forth)
GPS distances can vary somewhat, but is there any reason to believe they should be biased in favor of GPS-using runners with these shoes instead of averaging out?
no but that's not the point: if the data is unreliable then it's unreliable.
And here it's unreliable in a way that cannot be accounted for since it can be massively (e.g. minutes) over or under the actual time per individual.
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#33There's something interesting at play here — clearly, they're selling these shoes to enthusiasts, rather than just targeting elite athletes.
While I can see a competitive athlete reaching for whatever legal means they can to try and buy themselves a victory or podium or some other high-profile result that buys them sponsorships, there's just no good reason why amateur runners should care — you don't magically become a fitter, better runner by posting faster numbers through fancier shoes. Selling people on to the idea that they _should_ care about this is, depending on perspective marketing at either its finest or at its worst.
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#34Props to whomever at Nike PR got this article released. Now I want a pair. Its better to be controversial (Uber, Lime, Bird) these days than on the up and up. Help us fight for consumer rights!
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#35There might be a simpler explanation. People that are willing to spend $250 on racers mmay be more serious than average runner. It might also be that the act of putting on $250 shoes may have purely psychological effect to stimulate runner as not doing their best could have additional perceived cost of wasting money spent on very expensive shoes.
They did attempt to control for this in other ways (at least skim the article), but it's true that at the end of the day you cannot control for any psychological factor.
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#36This reminds me of the powerful arguments that Christopher McDougall presented in his book (Born to Run[1]) around bare-foot running [2]. I've tried running bare-foot and using old-ragged shoes and absolutely love it. [1]: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6289283-born-to-run [2]: http://www.chrismcdougall.com/born-to-run/the-barefoot-runni...
Any reason this should be down voted? I read that "born to run" was partly a scam book (can't recall exactly, but the cover was photoshopped for one, and the stories about some runners never getting hurt was just totally false, etc...) But barefoot running is a great way to run, no knee or back issues after doing this for years.
possibly because these shoes and the article are exactly the opposite of barefoot running?
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#37If true I wouldn't discount the benefit, even small. It reminds me the theory of marginal gains popularized by Team SKY in cycling. In the aggregate all these small details add-up and may make the difference.
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#38Best review of the shoes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXdxKamJDg8
Does he blink?
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
GPS distances can vary somewhat, but is there any reason to believe they should be biased in favor of GPS-using runners with these shoes instead of averaging out?
no but that's not the point: if the data is unreliable then it's unreliable. And here it's unreliable in a way that cannot be accounted for since it can be massively (e.g. minutes) over or under the actual time per individual.
You're still talking about data error magnitude as if it explains bias. It does not.
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#40There's something interesting at play here — clearly, they're selling these shoes to enthusiasts, rather than just targeting elite athletes. While I can see a competitive athlete reaching for whatever legal means they can to try and buy themselves a victory or podium or some other high-profile result that buys them sponsorships, there's just no good reason why amateur runners should care — you don't magically become…
This isn't really stated or testing, but one of my biggest issues with running is how much pain I feel on my joints. I actually find it really enjoyable to run through the woods with my dog, but my knees just get mad. If these shoes relieved just a tiny bit of that pain I would find them almost worth it. Not saying one should buy an expensive pair of shoes, but if it was the case, maybe the shoes don't just make you run better, but actually walk better and more safe?