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europe is just jealous of america's success... For the record volkswagen only paid 1.2 bn to germany for its emissions scam https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/business/volkswagen-emiss...
Volvo is a much smaller company with much less revenue serving a small market share of a smaller market. With fines based partly on revenue, this difference makes perfect sense. Unlike your comment.
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In my country, iOS are more than 50% of the market. I haven't been able to find any EU-wide numbers though, which are the important ones in this case.
Well, the European Commission alleges that Android has an 80% market share in Europe: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-1492_en.htm (fifth paragraph) But for this case, they are using a definition that makes Android even more dominant: they allege that Google restricts device manufacturers' freedoms. And from a device manufacturer point of view, Android has a 90+% market share of "licensable smart mobile ope…
Can anyone concisely explain what this fine is for, and also why the same wouldn't apply to Apple for iOS? It seems to be a rehash of the issue that Microsoft faced when it only gave you Internet Explorer on install. But iOS comes with only Safari on install, and forces you to use Apple's various apps - how is this any different?
> The European Commission has accused Google of abusing its Android market dominance by bundling its search engine and Chrome apps into the operating system. Google has also allegedly blocked phone makers from creating devices that run forked versions of Android.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17580694/google-android-e...
> How is it any different
Apple doesn’t have a dominent search engine to push down the throat of device makers.
They also don’t have an iOS consortium nor do work with other makers, so there is no bullying makers into doing what they want “or else”.
As others pointed out Apple is not in a majority position in the first place, but this fine is mainly bound to how the search engine and google suitr services come in the picture, and not on android on its own.
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Apples and oranges. Different violations, different markets, different market shares and different revenues make for different fines.
ur telling me u genuinely think volkswagen emissions scandal was less significant?
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A fine comes out of your profits, not your revenue. From a Routers[1] source they had $110.9 billion in revenue, but a profit of $12.6 billion. So this is somewhere between a third and half of their global profits. 1. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-alphabet-results/alphabet...
Variable fines are generally set based on revenue, rather than profits.
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Apple does not have a monopoly dominant position. In my country I think they are like 10% of the market. You can't abuse your dominant position if you don't have one.
Android does not have a monopoly either. You can buy an iPhone.
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A fine comes out of your profits, not your revenue. From a Routers[1] source they had $110.9 billion in revenue, but a profit of $12.6 billion. So this is somewhere between a third and half of their global profits. 1. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-alphabet-results/alphabet...
Variable fines are generally set based on revenue, rather than profits.
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Well, the European Commission alleges that Android has an 80% market share in Europe: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-1492_en.htm (fifth paragraph) But for this case, they are using a definition that makes Android even more dominant: they allege that Google restricts device manufacturers' freedoms. And from a device manufacturer point of view, Android has a 90+% market share of "licensable smart mobile ope…
That is fair enough - though is there really any competition in that space? Even if Google did nothing, I imagine most manufacturers would continue using Android as there isn't much choice. I don't actually know any mobile OS other than iOS and Android variants. Blackberry, Nokia (?) and Windows for mobile are all pretty much dead at this point.
I wonder to what extend this was anticipated by the market. The stock is down about 1%. Not much considering that $5B should be about 1/3 of Googles yearly earnings. On the other hand, 1% of Googles stock is about $8B. From that viewpoint, one might think it has come unanticipated. Then again, stocks rise and fall 1% all the time. So it's hard to read something into it. Is this the same case as reported in January he…
Is this a serious fine, or just a slap on the fingers? Can Google just continue their practices after this?