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The Turkish city that lives for breakfast

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Re: The Turkish city that lives for breakfast

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Post by dpq »

egeozcan wrote: post #20
skrebbel wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Don't mention the Armenian genocide. What happens when you do? Do people just stop being nice to you or way more?

As a Turkish who's not in denial, I can tell you that some people may go great lengths to change your mind. I can guarantee that you'll be, at the very least, annoyed for no reason. It's a very sensitive subject and has been a propaganda factor from both sides. It's not that I'm insensitive to the people who lost their lives in this genocide, I'm just claiming that it's been abused. Both Armenians and Turkish people…

Could you please clarify what you mean by the claim that the genocide has been abused? Should the Armenians be less outraged, stop fighting for its recognition, exclude it from history curriculum or something?

Re: The Turkish city that lives for breakfast

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Post by hsljekskfh »

danielam wrote: post #13

Sounds like it overlaps a great deal with Polish breakfasts. Lots of cold sliced meats, cheeses, vegetables, breads, preserves, etc, with some variation. A friend from college who grew up in Kansas once visited and remarked on it. That may have been when I first became acutely aware of the difference between the typical Polish breakfast and its American counterpart.

yeah to me it sounds like german breakfast, although there’s large overlaps between those 3 countries

Re: The Turkish city that lives for breakfast

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Post by sevensor »

A restauraunt serving Turkish breakfast recently opened in my town -- I had no idea it was such a thing. I'll have to find an excuse to try it!

Also, it's interesting seeing cognates in languages I don't know: peynir (I looked it up) reminded me of paneer (which at least in the U.S. is what we call the cheese in Indian food), and it turns out the word was (at least according to wiktionary) borrowed by both languages from Farsi.

Re: The Turkish city that lives for breakfast

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Post by Xalron »

dpq wrote: post #31
egeozcan wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Turkish who's not in denial, I can tell you that some people may go great lengths to change your mind. I can guarantee that you'll be, at the very least, annoyed for no reason. It's a very sensitive subject and has been a propaganda factor from both sides. It's not that I'm insensitive to the people who lost their lives in this genocide, I'm just claiming that it's been abused. Both Armenians and Turkish people…

Could you please clarify what you mean by the claim that the genocide has been abused? Should the Armenians be less outraged, stop fighting for its recognition, exclude it from history curriculum or something?

Both parties are abused. No body gives a damn about Armenians or Turks. Not really. Other countries are using this to exploit both countries however it is possible. That's enough abuse. It's politics and it's disgusting.

Re: The Turkish city that lives for breakfast

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Post by notforever »

Xalron wrote: post #34
dpq wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you please clarify what you mean by the claim that the genocide has been abused? Should the Armenians be less outraged, stop fighting for its recognition, exclude it from history curriculum or something?

Both parties are abused. No body gives a damn about Armenians or Turks. Not really. Other countries are using this to exploit both countries however it is possible. That's enough abuse. It's politics and it's disgusting.

Turkey needs to recognize the Genocide, instead it's putting all its effort into denial propaganda inside and outside Turkey. They even made Armenians not bringing it up a precondition for opening the border. Until Turkey can be honest Armenians will fight for truth to be preserved outside of Turkey. This may be an abstract issue for you but most Armenians today still are just one generation away from survivors and their stories. Should Armenians just let Turkey keep adding insult to injury? This is an article about an area where Armenians lived for millennia and there are none left by now, how did that happen?

Re: The Turkish city that lives for breakfast

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Post by mda »

growlist wrote: post #12

Having heard the hype about this famous breakfast I have to admit to being a little underwhelmed when I experienced it myself, so ymmv. Apart from that my trip to Eastern Turkey was brilliant and as with others I wholeheartedly recommend it. So much amazing history and scenery, friendly people, easy travel. I'd suggest it's safer with at least two of you and I'm not sure I'd visit Diyarbakir area if I went again now.…

Do you talk about this kind of things during breakfast when you visit a country? Mind boggles.

Re: The Turkish city that lives for breakfast

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Post by growlist »

mda wrote: post #36
growlist wrote: post #12

Having heard the hype about this famous breakfast I have to admit to being a little underwhelmed when I experienced it myself, so ymmv. Apart from that my trip to Eastern Turkey was brilliant and as with others I wholeheartedly recommend it. So much amazing history and scenery, friendly people, easy travel. I'd suggest it's safer with at least two of you and I'm not sure I'd visit Diyarbakir area if I went again now.…

Do you talk about this kind of things during breakfast when you visit a country? Mind boggles.

Don't discuss politics is standard guidebook advice, isn't it? Along with don't travel to warzones, don't take drugs, always use condoms, don't utilise the services of the local sex workers etc. etc. All the things that you or I would know to never risk, but apparently some still do, hence the advice is still thought worth giving..

I gave it special mention as it's an especially sensitive topic, and you could argue that a conscientious tourist should have at least some awareness of the history of the area before they visit.

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