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A Look Back at Why Blockbuster Really Failed and Why It Didn't Have To (2014)

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Re: A Look Back at Why Blockbuster Really Failed and Why It Didn't Have To (2014)

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Blockbuster used to have a really crappy selection of mostly mainstream movies, but often it was one of the closest video rental stores around, as they seemed to be everywhere. They also censored and cut their movies, which was really annoying. I don't know what their agenda was on that front, and why they couldn't just let mature adults watch the full films. My friends and I used to much prefer going to independent…

I was lucky enough to live across the street from a great independent video store[1] and part of the fun was spending 30 mins or so browsing the shelves for 3 DVDs for the week.

When checking out I’d often get some good advice from whoever was at the counter on what to rent next time if I liked what I was getting that day.

As much as I love the convenience of streaming I’ve still yet to find any algorithm that seems to be able to make a decent selection so I’m gonna have to say I’m nostalgic for those times :(

https://www.aliceinvideoland.co.nz/about

Re: A Look Back at Why Blockbuster Really Failed and Why It Didn't Have To (2014)

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The author harps on "networks" too much. In general, brick and mortar retail sectors which can be done better on line have tanked. From Sears to Radio Shack to Toys-R-Us, that's happened. Malls in general are hurting badly.

> From Sears to Radio Shack

The idiotic thing is that Sears was the original Amazon, with their mail-order catalog business. It worked out well for them for a long time. But they became your grandparents' favorite place to shop (and their product offerings reflected this) within a few generations, and in their desperate bid to stay relevant they've decided to mimic the business model of Service Merchandise, which paid the price for its own irrelevance 20 years ago.

Everybody overhypes Amazon but it's not (entirely) online shopping that Sears is competing with-- it's Walmart, the neighboring, booming B&M business.

Radio Shack is not much better. "You have questions, we have blank stares" gave way to "you need solder, we have cell phones." Somewhere along the way they were forced to sell nothing but phones and lost any cachet they had as the only electronics vendor in most towns, as they were now competing with the 5 or 6 phone stores even the smallest of towns already had. I don't know where they went wrong in the first place but in this overteched age the market for consumer electronics is clearly there.

It's like watching a horror film where all you can do is scream silently "don't do that!" as the debutante goes into the basement to investigate the strange noise. Some of these pivots are just painfully short-sighted.

I suspect malls may yet make a modest recovery. More and more of them are starting to attract "lifestyle" businesses to prop them up and drive foot traffic, such as movie theaters, events, bars and (actual) restaurants.

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My girlfriend runs an independent video rental store. I've been thinking of ways to implement a streaming service for our extensive collection of physical DVDs from the store to customers in the local area, perhaps to a proprietary TV box. I have the skills to do this. Does anybody here know if this has ever been done, or is legal? I'm in BC, Canada.

You /really/ need to talk to a copyright lawyer in your country about this. I am almost positive it'll run against SOME stupid copyright law even if you do an ethnically correct thing similar to having a human insert a disk in to a real video playback device and streaming the output to a merely a single very long distance connected display device.

I'm not a lawyer, but the Canadian copyright act is actually quite readable: http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-42/ As a programmer, I'm someone who depends on copyright for my living, so I always thought it was a good idea to understand what it says.

While, the advice to get a lawyer is a good one, I think it's actually pretty clear that it is not legal. It falls pretty clearly under "(f) in the case of any literary, dramatic, musical or artistic work, to communicate the work to the public by telecommunication". You would have to get a license -- and that's the difficult-to-the-point-of-impossible bit.

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My girlfriend runs an independent video rental store. I've been thinking of ways to implement a streaming service for our extensive collection of physical DVDs from the store to customers in the local area, perhaps to a proprietary TV box. I have the skills to do this. Does anybody here know if this has ever been done, or is legal? I'm in BC, Canada.

Technical execution is the easy part, but legally speaking, you might fare much better by just offering to physically deliver movies on demand.

Re: A Look Back at Why Blockbuster Really Failed and Why It Didn't Have To (2014)

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post #30

Blockbuster used to have a really crappy selection of mostly mainstream movies, but often it was one of the closest video rental stores around, as they seemed to be everywhere. They also censored and cut their movies, which was really annoying. I don't know what their agenda was on that front, and why they couldn't just let mature adults watch the full films. My friends and I used to much prefer going to independent…

> They also censored and cut their movies, which was really annoying This is a bizarre urban legend that I don't believe has ever been substantiated. Can you do so?

All I can say is that I've watched movies that I got from Blockbuster which were missing scenes (often graphic or explicit scenes) that I'd seen in other versions of the film.

Now, this was decades ago, so I don't remember which films they were, much less which scenes were cut. But I have talked to other people who've echoed my experience. I've also read articles in the past which admit this censorship happened.

A cursory web search just now came up with some mentions of said censorship:

"As mentioned before the movie opened with an NC-17 rating but Verhoeven himself edited an R-Rated version for rental chains like Blockbuster Video."[1]

"As is often the case in the USA that besides the usual Unrated releases of DTV productions there are also Restricted versions especially for rental purposes (Blockbuster Video) or being used in supermarket chains (Walmart)."[2]

"Portuguese rental video version seems to be the one made for Blockbuster video. For retail the alleged mistake was corrected, though some censored tapes were still seen on sale. The cut scenes are as follows:..."[3]

[1] - https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=1932233

[2] - https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=5899077

[3] - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115964/alternateversions

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Antioco tried launching a dvd by mail and streaming service around the same time Netflix did. They were behind, but not that far. The problem seems to be this > While he convinced the board to back his plan, one of his lieutenants, Jim Keyes, led a rear guard action. Had they actually listened to Antioco, they may have survived. I subscribed to Blockbuster Online because I could return things to the store and get mov…

Has there ever been a successful large scale pivot by an American technology company that wasn’t founder led? All of the successful FAANG companies successfully managed transistions led by thier founders. Even though Microsoft’s recent turn around wasn’t founder led, I don’t think the current CEO could have done it without Bill Gates’ support.

It's unlikely because the existing staff incentives are from the previous business line, not the new one.

Just try and get your sales staff to sell a new product line when all their commission comes from the old one.

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Oddly one of the big San Jose malls (Valley Fair) is currently undergoing a huge renovation and expansion.

And in Cupertino Vallco is rotting.

Vallco was doomed as soon as Valley Fair opened for business 4.5 miles away and cornered the market for upscale anchor tenants.

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post #2

The author harps on "networks" too much. In general, brick and mortar retail sectors which can be done better on line have tanked. From Sears to Radio Shack to Toys-R-Us, that's happened. Malls in general are hurting badly.

>Malls in general are hurting badly.

I guess I'm getting old, because I've been hearing that malls are dying for at least the last 20 years. The suit is back?

Re: A Look Back at Why Blockbuster Really Failed and Why It Didn't Have To (2014)

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post #30

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> They also censored and cut their movies, which was really annoying This is a bizarre urban legend that I don't believe has ever been substantiated. Can you do so?

All I can say is that I've watched movies that I got from Blockbuster which were missing scenes (often graphic or explicit scenes) that I'd seen in other versions of the film. Now, this was decades ago, so I don't remember which films they were, much less which scenes were cut. But I have talked to other people who've echoed my experience. I've also read articles in the past which admit this censorship happened. A cu…

Blockbuster never "censored" or "cut" videos as you said. Blockbuster chose not to carry NC-17 or x-rated movies. There are alternate cuts of just about all movies and TV shows for different venues. I see people complain about Netflix having a different version than the one they remember. Some SNL episodes on Netflix run only about 30 minutes. It's not Netflix or Blockbuster doing any editing, they just buy what's available, probably the cheapest version or they take what they're given by default.

Outside of their choice not to carry "adult" programming the casual censorship you're accusing Blockbuster of doesn't exist.

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It seems so bizarre - a rental company would stream video, through an energy company's fiber optic cables. Didn't this seem incongruous to anyone at the time? https://youtu.be/5sMXR7rK40U?t=6m8s

The idea of “Enron Broadband” seemed ridiculous to me at the time.

Enron didn't have any last mile broadband capability. How did this deal get done?
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