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Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

#31
Reminded me of this, by JP Lewis in 2001

Lifting Detail from Darkness

http://www.scribblethink.org/Work/Talks/dalmatian.pdf

This application sketch describes a high quality method for separating detail from overall image region intensity. This intensity-detail decomposition can be used to automate some specialized image alteration tasks. Our work was motivated by the movie 102 Dalmatians, which featured a dalmatian puppy without spots. Animal handlers determined that the obvious idea of applying makeup to the dog was not possible – evidently there was no suitable makeup that was both safe to the dogs and that would stay in place during normal dog activity (including licking). This left Disney TSL with the task of painting out all the spots on the dog every few frames (the paintings were carried for a few frames with a simple scheme). The spot removal task was larger than anyone guessed, and ultimately required a large number of artists (up to 40) working for eight months. The problem also proved to be more difficult than expected from an algorithmic point of view. As the spots often had visible fur texture, initially it was believed that there must be some simple compositing technique that could lighten these spots.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your bank will likely not let you in if you're wearing a hat or sunglasses. "No shoes, no shirt, no service" has also been a thing for as long as convenience stores have been around. Not that far of a stretch to think this will ultimately extend to face paint. If you want true anonymity, just wear a motorcyle helmet everywhere. We still don't know who The Stig is.

Sure, but your bank is a private institution, not the government.

is there really a big difference? the government has a right to any data the bank collects about you

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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post #22

More specifically: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition tech trained on normal faces and trying to recognize normal faces. While the black and white paint does seem to negate a lot of natural contrast human faces have – and on which the recognition of faces is currently based – there seems a lot of information left to recognize specific faces, especially when considering stereovision or even possible p…

Speaking of that, I already fed in data from a kinect of the infrared region of interest from a LBP cascade.

It works to identify the perceptual hash of the depth and contour of the face. It beats all makeup, completely.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but your bank is a private institution, not the government.

is there really a big difference? the government has a right to any data the bank collects about you

There is a huge difference - a monopoly on violence and control over public places.

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post #5

The title of this article seems to imply that face painting was intentionally used among Juggalos to deter computerized facial recognition - of course we know that's not the case. Though to be fair, somewhere in the history of the practice, it may be argued that it was to throw off human face-recognition. This reminds me of a sort of creative look into futuristic fashion I saw a bit ago: https://cvdazzle.com Where th…

Checked the cvdazzle site. Why do these models - and models on "high fashion" photos in general - look always like they feel deep contempt towards the viewer? Where did this trope come from? What are they trying to suggest? I don't get it.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but your bank is a private institution, not the government.

is there really a big difference? the government has a right to any data the bank collects about you

> the government has a right to any data the bank collects about you

This is not true in the US. Banks certainly have a right to give any information you've given them to the government though.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

#38

Once this technique becomes more widespread, get ready for laws that make it illegal to fool facial recognition, similar to wearing masks, etc.

I would imagine there is a pretty strong first amendment case against such laws in the United States. Mask laws have been successfully challenged on those grounds (though sometimes the challenges have been unsuccessful).

I strongly support anti-mask laws... especially in situations when you have two political opponents coming up to one another in the streets. Masks make it way too easy for some kind of provocateur to instigate fights or start a stampede. And this may be egged on my professional dark PR/intelligence people to make one side or another look good/bad.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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post #22

More specifically: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition tech trained on normal faces and trying to recognize normal faces. While the black and white paint does seem to negate a lot of natural contrast human faces have – and on which the recognition of faces is currently based – there seems a lot of information left to recognize specific faces, especially when considering stereovision or even possible p…

Speaking of that, I already fed in data from a kinect of the infrared region of interest from a LBP cascade. It works to identify the perceptual hash of the depth and contour of the face. It beats all makeup, completely.

I'll need some makeup artists from Star Trek TNG to help me get ready in the mornings.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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post #36
post #5

The title of this article seems to imply that face painting was intentionally used among Juggalos to deter computerized facial recognition - of course we know that's not the case. Though to be fair, somewhere in the history of the practice, it may be argued that it was to throw off human face-recognition. This reminds me of a sort of creative look into futuristic fashion I saw a bit ago: https://cvdazzle.com Where th…

Checked the cvdazzle site. Why do these models - and models on "high fashion" photos in general - look always like they feel deep contempt towards the viewer? Where did this trope come from? What are they trying to suggest? I don't get it.

If I had to pose for a camera while wearing ridiculous-looking clothes and/or makeup, I'd have some pretty deep contempt for everyone involved (including the viewer) as well.
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