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Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

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Re: Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

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Does anyone know much about the source, Daniel Gartenberg? The credentials in the article are not great for a "leading" scientist, but perhaps others know more:

"assistant adjunct professor ... at Penn State"

"one of the world’s most-talked-about sleep scientist" (emphasis added) - most talked about?

"entrepreneur who has launched several cognitive-behavioral-therapy apps"

Re: Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

#32

> Bose just released an earbud that you can sleep with, for example Wait, what? These are 249.95$. Why not just use simple earplugs? In Germany, we have Ohropax, made from wax, which sell for less than 3€ for a set of 12: http://www.ohropax.de/en.html

Haven’t followed the link in the article but I guess those are noise canceling.

Re: Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

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man, do i have a funny...

despite being a genius i just couldn't do skool. Eventually i concluded that the topics just bored me. It just now struck me that they bored me because i barely slept before school. in the weekends i would sleep 14 hours then did things mentally that blew my own mind. to borrow an example from the discussion: i could look at a chessboard and explore openings without moving a piece, all the way to the end game then the next variation. there was this huge inconsistency with my one ear in other ear out school performance.

Re: Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

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>Jobs used to be very manual, but as jobs are becoming more and more cognitive, I think caring for your cognition is going to become increasingly important for the work. That's an interesting point, it will become less about not sitting in the same position for a long period of time, and more about making sure you don't strain your brain

your muscles wont grow and your body goes kaput if you sleep insufficiently and do physical labor.

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I wonder if there are any studies of the effect on the quality and quantity of people's sleep and their general wellbeing since this recent surge of "sleep shaming" in the press started. It's always the same thing: "You are not sleeping in exactly this way and you should feel bad." Nope, sorry. I don't.

you get used to feeling bad. i suppose we've worn out the usefulnes of the word now.

Re: Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

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I believe I'm one of the "short sleepers" they mention in the article. I've bought wirstband mostly to track my sleep patterns. Even though article says that devices like fitbit are not accurate enough in tracking different phases of sleep, my goal was largley to see how much time do I spend sleeping. In the last four months, I average out at 6,1hrs. 90% of the time I will wake up before the alarm and will sleep the…

Try going without an alarm at all for awhile, and then measure your sleep.

Re: Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

#37

man, do i have a funny... despite being a genius i just couldn't do skool. Eventually i concluded that the topics just bored me. It just now struck me that they bored me because i barely slept before school. in the weekends i would sleep 14 hours then did things mentally that blew my own mind. to borrow an example from the discussion: i could look at a chessboard and explore openings without moving a piece, all the w…

I've always felt there was a dramatic difference in my mental performance/IQ/genius-level thinking when I got a full 9 hours of sleep versus just 7-8 hours. Very noticeable in school or the early years of work.

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#38

If there is one thing in this world I'd like to see, it's the worker's right for an afternoon nap: I really would become highly anxious if deprived long-term of my siesta. I've been lucky in most of my environments to find somewhere to close my eyes and sleep for 10-15 minutes - I just need somewhere to lie down or recline and something to block the light: if I'm tired enough sound doesn't bother me. Some people tell…

I'd like to think afternoon naps would be a good thing at work, but my worry is that employers would mandate 30-60 minutes of unpaid nap time at the workplace. Thus we'd end up extending the already bad 9-6 days (because 9-5 is now seemingly a thing of the past) and pushing it up to 9-7.

Re: Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

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I must be a genetic short sleeper: 4 hours and I'm awake, as in my eyes won't stay shut. 5 hours and I'm groggy. Been this way for quite a while, and I used to stress about it, but now I just get up and get things done. I do take a nap here and there, but maybe once a month? However, I am somewhat of a health nut, crunches and core stuff during compiles, and a hard cardio mid afternoon. All this while coding 10 to 14 hours a day. Working from home, no commute, and a boss 12 time zones away, I've been able to get pretty extreme because I really like my work.

Re: Eight hours a night isn’t enough, according to a leading sleep scientist

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You mention you bought a wristband. Tracking my sleep is one of those things I want to start doing. Do you have any recommendations? I don't particularly want to remember to put it on every night. I know Nokia launched a mattress pad recently ( https://health.nokia.com/gr/en/sleep ) but I'm concerned about how reliable this is if I don't sleep exactly on top of it. (Plus I don't know how this could actually tell anyt…

Not the parent, but I've been using the Oura ring ( https://ouraring.com/ ) for almost a year and it works very well for sleep tracking. It's a sleep tracker above all, and has rather limited exercise tracking. It tracks resting heart rate, sleep phases, body temperature, and breathing. There's also an API to download data from their cloud service, although I haven't tried it. I haven't yet received the newer model,…

Woah, that's cool. I'll try it out, thanks for the pointer!
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