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Re: CopperheadOS update: Developer suspended from Reddit

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How did the CEO do this? What strings do you pull to get someone banned for Reddit whistleblowing? Who on the Reddit staff might "fence" his request?

Lets see the ceo of copperheadOS wants to pretend the sole developer who did all the useful work is a peon he can fire instead of a partner and the leadership of reddit likely identifies to a greater degree with the pointy haired boss than the nerd.

Re: CopperheadOS update: Developer suspended from Reddit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Update - A community member tried to document the happenings of the events and the CEO of CopperheadOS sent a DMCA request to take it down. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yegortimoshenko/copperhead...

Wow, that surely meets the very high bar DMCA sets for false reports, right?

This is not a valid DMCA claim, point one doesn't even mention copyright. I sent a counter-claim, then tried to republish the repo. GitLab said me I will only be able to republish in 10 days if I don't receive a response, and also that they might ban me if I try to republish it again without waiting for due process.

Re: CopperheadOS update: Developer suspended from Reddit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought both were founders or that the developer is actually the founder and the other guy was brought in to run the business side.

They are both co-founders with 50% of the company each - at least that's what the dev said on Twitter.

But the developer started the project before he even knew the other guy. One of the issues is that, reportedly, the developer never actually assigned any copyright to the company, so he's (allegedly) the actual owner of the code.

Re: CopperheadOS update: Developer suspended from Reddit

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Well I do have to thank them for blowing this up now, as I'm in the market for a new pocket tracker. It seems like the least-worst option is Samsung Exynos -> Lineage -> No GoogleCrutches -> F-droid. Still a fucking dumpster fire. Alas, here's to hoping pmOS (or the like) actually goes somewhere.

If you want to use Android, don't forget about microG. There's even their Lineage fork: https://lineage.microg.org/

Re: CopperheadOS update: Developer suspended from Reddit

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Well I do have to thank them for blowing this up now, as I'm in the market for a new pocket tracker. It seems like the least-worst option is Samsung Exynos -> Lineage -> No GoogleCrutches -> F-droid. Still a fucking dumpster fire. Alas, here's to hoping pmOS (or the like) actually goes somewhere.

If you want to use Android, don't forget about microG. There's even their Lineage fork: https://lineage.microg.org/

Well I don't really want to use Android. What I want is a long-battery-life GNU computer that fits in my pocket, with an optional chorded keyboard. Which could then run any needed Android apps in an untrusted vm [0]. Alas.

I'll have to look into microG. My plan was just to avoid attractive nuisance apps on my everyday phone, and stick with stuff from F-droid. But then of course eg traveling puts one in a different mode of just needing to get a problem solved on the go [1].

It is a bit worrying that microG's first listed feature is augmenting perfectly-fine GPS location.

The split with Lineage seems annoying, for both practical and long term considerations. From a quick reading, it seems like Lineage is being stubborn and preserving the paradigm where Google is trusted more than the purported owner of the device.

Seems like one would definitely have to use a VPN with microG, lest Google continue to infer social metadata from whatever IP address (ie wifi network) one was connecting from [2].

[0] I wouldn't mind say running Waze for the highway part of routine trips (with a nonce account of course), to report highway robbers and other hazards.

[1] Which is how these surveillance companies get us over the barrel, but I digress.

[2] It seems like the best solution here would be some sort of headless "wifi condom" that would connect to 3g/4g/wifi networks, do the VPN stuff, and present a single constant wifi network.

Re: CopperheadOS update: Developer suspended from Reddit

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I don't think it's over for CopperheadOS, but it is over for that name. Like Cyanogen changing to LineageOS, the dev who deleted his signing keys will probably just foke a new code base with a new name. Obviously it won't be as peaceful a transition Cyanogen->Lineage, but that's my prediction for this Android variant in the next few months.

Daniel sounds rather burnt out, and also needs to find a new job. I wouldn't expect updates at the same pace.

Yes, which is quite sad both because of the amount of effort put into this and because there's nothing quite similar to migrate to. CopperheadOS was a bit unique.

Re: CopperheadOS update: Developer suspended from Reddit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to use Android, don't forget about microG. There's even their Lineage fork: https://lineage.microg.org/

Well I don't really want to use Android. What I want is a long-battery-life GNU computer that fits in my pocket, with an optional chorded keyboard. Which could then run any needed Android apps in an untrusted vm [0]. Alas. I'll have to look into microG. My plan was just to avoid attractive nuisance apps on my everyday phone, and stick with stuff from F-droid. But then of course eg traveling puts one in a different mo…

>Well I don't really want to use Android. What I want is a long-battery-life GNU computer that fits in my pocket.

Librem5 is definitely something to watch: https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

I'm also watching the Pyra, but development is super slow: https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyra/

Re: CopperheadOS update: Developer suspended from Reddit

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As far as I can tell, both the CEO and the developer have behaved very unprofessionally during this whole affair, airing their grievances and their dirty laundry on public forums. I don’t think I would trust either of them to run a company or maintain a trustworthy codebase. They should consider the damage they are doing to their reputations and start acting like adults.

I'm not sure what you expect from the developer, to just take it? He doesn't have power in the company because even though he's a 50% shareholder, he's not on the board of directors.

I mean, personally, I hold them both to the same standard of professionalism, as they were both "c-levels" within their company. He's more than a developer, at that point, so airing of dirty laundry comes off as kind of a petty attempt at "bringing the other guy down with me". Especially the times where he was posting direct snippets from their private emails, then a sinister sounding summary of the rest (but not the actual content of the rest, meaning he's probably twisting some words).

I think both sides are acting really shitty here, I wouldn't want to partner with either of them in any future endeavor.

Re: CopperheadOS update: Developer suspended from Reddit

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Well I do have to thank them for blowing this up now, as I'm in the market for a new pocket tracker. It seems like the least-worst option is Samsung Exynos -> Lineage -> No GoogleCrutches -> F-droid. Still a fucking dumpster fire. Alas, here's to hoping pmOS (or the like) actually goes somewhere.

If you really care just get an Apple. I don't care that much so I'm still on Android.

Re: CopperheadOS update: Developer suspended from Reddit

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    $ curl -s "https://api.github.com/orgs/AndroidHardening/repos?per_page=200" | ruby -rubygems -e "require 'json'; JSON.load(STDIN.read).each { |repo| puts \"git clone #{repo['ssh_url']} android-hardening-#{repo['name'].gsub(/(.)([A-Z])/,'\1-\2').downcase.gsub(/[^a-zA-Z0-9]/, '-').gsub(/-(-+)/, '-')}\" }" | parallel -j 8 '{}'
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