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Tesla employees reveal how they were fired

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Re: Tesla employees reveal how they were fired

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This is how big layoff rounds work. Tesla just fired 9% of its people in a hurry. That means somebody had to come up with a huge list of people and make tough choices based on cost, budgets and spreading the pain across departments, etc. Usually that involves quite a bit of bartering between departments, quotas, etc. The main reason here is cutting cost; not performance of the individuals.

Looks like a job well done to me. Minimum amount of fuss and the they got it over with in a day or so. Most people did not see it coming, which means they contained the chaos nicely. Having disgruntled employees panicking ahead of this kind of stuff is very bad for morale. And once it is done, you basically want these people out of your building ASAP. Tesla is not a charity and dragging this out for weeks or months while they went department by department would have been very bad.

Re: Tesla employees reveal how they were fired

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AMP pages load faster on suboptimal internet. I'm pretty ok with OP having used this.

From The Netherlands: Original [1]: 585.51KB, load: 1.31s AMP: 918.44KB, load: 1.56s [1] http://www.thisisinsider.com/tesla-employees-reveal-how-they...

Thanks for posting that - the non-AMP original is significantly easier to read on my monitor due to its layout more suitable for larger screens.

Re: Tesla employees reveal how they were fired

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My vote for a 'convert submitted amp links to normal links' automatism on HN. Or simply a block like 'You are trying to submit the amp version of a page. Please submit the original'. By the way, shouldnt amp versions automatically have a 'Go to the real page' link on the top or something? I see a totally absurd version of the page on my 30" monitor. With no obvious way to go to the normal page. Not even the url has a…

I first noticed the weird no-margin page, but didn't bother looking at the URL but after: > "font-weight: 400;">Musk said in an email on Monday... I got suspicious. Took a look and stopped reading. Flagged the post. I don't know what else to do but GOOGLE you are reaching levels of EVIL.

As much as I'd love a reason to snip on AMP, that's also present in the full version.

Re: Tesla employees reveal how they were fired

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If you leave voluntarily, I can see your contract could plausibly deny you points on sales completed after you walked. If you are on commission and the tail payment is not paid because they sacked you without cause, I would be surprised if the payment was not still due. It feels like its a part of the conditions of employment you can't avoid by firing somebody simply to downsize. Doubtless some truly shitty employmen…

> If you leave voluntarily, I can see your contract could plausibly deny you points on sales completed after you walked. There’s also a very good chance that it you are terminated and offered severance, your severance package is contingent on your waiver of all potential claims against the company.

All I can do is repeat how glad I am to be bound to salary and pension benefits with legal strings on termination. Commission income feels like a deal with the devil.

Re: Tesla employees reveal how they were fired

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You can only bring a lawsuit if you have the money for a lawyer in the first place. If your employer is not paying you, then you are already out a lot of money you could have used to defend your rights

Some lawyers will take a strong case for a percentage of the settlement.

Most of these sorts of cases are too small to be worth it for a lawyer on an individual basis. Losing out on $3000 of commission you are owed and where expecting can be terrible for an individual, but a chance of winning 30% of a $3000 settlement isn't worth getting out of bed for if you're a lawyer. That's why these sorts of cases only make sense as a class action.

Re: Tesla employees reveal how they were fired

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AMP pages load faster on suboptimal internet. I'm pretty ok with OP having used this.

Amp adds nothing to make a site faster. The opposite. It adds some mandatory libraries. It just imposes some restrictions on what a page can contain. So the version companies make to be included in amp might be smaller then their original version for that reason. We should downrank slow bloated sites directly instead. Then companies would have an incentive to make their sites fast from the start.

I'm on mobile on 2G and the AMP version loads instantly, whilst the non-AMP one takes forever to load a ton of assets. In the end it doesn't matter much, but I personally do appreciate when a page is lighter and loads quickly. For instance, HN loads pretty fast even on crap, lossy connections.

Re: Tesla employees reveal how they were fired

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Some of this seems like they're trying to find criticism where it's barely warranted. When are you supposed to notify someone of a meeting in which they'll be fired? Too late and it seems like it's last minute. Too soon and they might anxiously stew on it for a week. Not enough indication of what the meeting is about, and they'll be surprised. Give them too much indication and their anxiety will balloon. I've been on…

What about this part?

> A third employee, an engineer who still works at Tesla and asked not to be identified by name, said he discovered his manager had been fired after the manager didn't show up for a meeting on Tuesday. When a colleague of his attempted to email the manager, the email bounced back.

Seems very odd not to notify employees when their manager gets fired.

Re: Tesla employees reveal how they were fired

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Some lawyers will take a strong case for a percentage of the settlement.

Most of these sorts of cases are too small to be worth it for a lawyer on an individual basis. Losing out on $3000 of commission you are owed and where expecting can be terrible for an individual, but a chance of winning 30% of a $3000 settlement isn't worth getting out of bed for if you're a lawyer. That's why these sorts of cases only make sense as a class action.

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Re: Tesla employees reveal how they were fired

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some lawyers will take a strong case for a percentage of the settlement.

Most of these sorts of cases are too small to be worth it for a lawyer on an individual basis. Losing out on $3000 of commission you are owed and where expecting can be terrible for an individual, but a chance of winning 30% of a $3000 settlement isn't worth getting out of bed for if you're a lawyer. That's why these sorts of cases only make sense as a class action.

Small claims court is your friend. Judges take a dim view of employers not paying money owed.
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