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Lemming Suicide Myth: Disney Film Faked Bogus Behavior

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Re: Lemming Suicide Myth: Disney Film Faked Bogus Behavior

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upon reading the whole article, it is mostly true. "mass dispersal" occurs when the population grows too much and the food runs out, sometimes it can be very directional, and sometimes they will pile up on the shore until they gets too packed and they try to swim across frigid waters. the Disney mass suicide documentary says this can be observed every 7 - 10 years, and then they over dramatized how it looks edit: rem…

You will now be downvoted more for talking about the downvoting.

Re: Lemming Suicide Myth: Disney Film Faked Bogus Behavior

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Talk about unnecessary cruelty, lemmings are quite cute creatures, can't imagine what was going thru their heads ("the Disney filmmakers") when they threw all those lemmings off a cliff to their deaths for a film.

This'll look good! And it's what management expects!

Re: Lemming Suicide Myth: Disney Film Faked Bogus Behavior

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Talk about unnecessary cruelty, lemmings are quite cute creatures, can't imagine what was going thru their heads ("the Disney filmmakers") when they threw all those lemmings off a cliff to their deaths for a film.

> lemmings are quite cute creatures

The most important attribute for animal rights causes it seems. If Facebook campaigns are any measure...

Re: Lemming Suicide Myth: Disney Film Faked Bogus Behavior

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post #11

Disney popularized the myth, but I think it was around before them. I think they wanted to get video of those famous/interesting lemming suicides but the lemmings wouldn't do it, so they coerced them into it.

Tldr: Disney committed lemming genocide

Why the downvotes?

From White Wilderness, as the movie shows drowning Lemmings, put there by Disney employees, the narrator goes:

"And so is acted out, the legend of mass suicide and destruction of a species."

https://youtu.be/xMZlr5Gf9yY?t=2m50s

Re: Lemming Suicide Myth: Disney Film Faked Bogus Behavior

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions Which among many other things, mentions the Lemming Suicide myth: > Lemmings do not engage in mass suicidal dives off cliffs when migrating. This misconception was popularized by the Disney film White Wilderness, which shot many of the migration scenes (also staged by using multiple shots of different groups of lemmings) on a large, snow-covered turntable in…

This is one of my favorite wikipedia pages. I'm not aware of any other resource that does so much to fix our broken epistemology.

That's not epistemology... epistemology is about the fundamental nature of truth and knowledge, like whether reality is shared and knowable. I think you mean 'common sense.' Though nowadays always spoken of positively, originally 'common sense' referred to the sense of commoners, being incomplete and unreasoned and just an accumulation of happenstance. That's pretty much what common misconceptions are.

Re: Lemming Suicide Myth: Disney Film Faked Bogus Behavior

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It took me a while to realize that you were saying that the myth was around before the game and Disney. For some reason I thought you meant the game was around before Disney.

You thought that because the last (parent's) sentence was talking about the game, and "it" tends to refer to the last noun that was talked about.

Wouldn't the last noun be 'the fictional fact'?

Re: Lemming Suicide Myth: Disney Film Faked Bogus Behavior

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The funny thing is David Attenborough docos are horrifically anti science. Basically just nature porn.

But the previous yard stick was doco's that Disney was making, way, way worse, so the BBC got more credit, it changed the game.

But the whole population doesn't need to understand nature and most people agree we need to preserve nature where ever possible so there's still value in the Planet series etc, but it scary how many biologists/scientists believe it.

Re: Lemming Suicide Myth: Disney Film Faked Bogus Behavior

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upon reading the whole article, it is mostly true. "mass dispersal" occurs when the population grows too much and the food runs out, sometimes it can be very directional, and sometimes they will pile up on the shore until they gets too packed and they try to swim across frigid waters. the Disney mass suicide documentary says this can be observed every 7 - 10 years, and then they over dramatized how it looks edit: rem…

That's pretty much what I got out of it. Occasionally lemmings will engage in, "mass dispersal" in a single direction... Which sometimes brings the group to a river crossing... Which once in a blue moon ends in mass death. Certainly the truth is radically different than what was portrayed but it was rooted in some truth. That said, killing a bunch of animals that were children's pets only days before to fake some dubious folk legend is fucking psychotic.
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