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Ajit Pai says you’re going to love the death of net neutrality

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Re: Ajit Pai says you’re going to love the death of net neutrality

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Post by twetge »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #17
sonar_un wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We were just talking about this same thing on /r/seo today. The search results are getting poorer and poorer and pbn’s are eating relevant search results.

What is a pbn?

private blog network.

An seo company will buy a bunch of recently expiring domains related to a specific topic, and do it in a way that hides who the owners are. They build blogs on these sites, and fill them with the lowest grade content. I've see stuff that's "spun" (plagiarized content where a percentage of words have been replaced with synonyms, so that it appears original) and other stuff that's farmed out to writers in developing countries who work for pennies (A lot of articles with no real substance, written in poor english.)

The owner then links all the blogs to each other, so they appear to have domain authority. Then they sell back links to their customers. This fools Google into thinking your website is trustworthy (because everyone is linking to it) and you get better placement in search results.

In short, its a way anyone can buy popularity online.

Re: Ajit Pai says you’re going to love the death of net neutrality

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Post by phinnaeus »

barneygumble742 wrote: post #25
JustSomeNobody wrote: post #2

Part of me really hopes the internet heads into the crapper within the next couple years. It's time for a reboot anyway, to clear the cruft.

Reboot the internet with IPv6 and now all your internal devices will be openly addressable to the internet. I see nothing good coming from that.

NAT is not a firewall. There's no reason you can't hide your LAN from a WAN connection with IPv6.

Re: Ajit Pai says you’re going to love the death of net neutrality

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Post by moolcool »

mistrial9 wrote: post #19

There is a city here with a six lane freeway running right through the middle of many previous residential areas.. It might seem obvious that a six lane freeway produces constant noise, heavy particulate matter in the air all year, and a constant blanket of heavy matter downwind on every surface, the soil, your clothes, etc.. The benefit of this heavy motorway is that areas far from the city became the new (wealthy)…

I don't like this analogy, because the residents of the original city see some tremendous benefits from the freeway as well

Re: Ajit Pai says you’re going to love the death of net neutrality

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Post by nicnash08 »

barneygumble742 wrote: post #22
gfosco wrote: post #10

Anyone willing to consider that maybe he's right about this issue?

Given his past actions, why give him the benefit of the doubt? He has proved to be a liar and a shill for the telcos. He lied about the FCC's fake DDoS attack and refuses to investigate all the bots on the FCC's comment site as the NN open commenting period was coming to a close. He's the Scott Pruitt of the FCC.

This. He has shown no reason to trust him, exactly the opposite. To actively disregard bot comments (of which my name was on the list saying exactly the opposite of what I believe), but they lies. He should be fired in my opinion and any actions taken under him reversed.

Re: Ajit Pai says you’re going to love the death of net neutrality

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Post by Johnny555 »

gfosco wrote: post #10

Anyone willing to consider that maybe he's right about this issue?

He could only be right if there were real broadband competition - there's no point in the ISP disclosing how it's going to screw me if I have no choice.

In the past few places I've lived (in Seattle and the SF Bay Area), there has been only a single high speed broadband provider (2 of those places had a DSL provider that promised "up to 1.5mbit" speeds), but that's barely enough for standard def streaming, and not nearly enough for HD streaming -- 1.5Mbit DSL was "high speed" 20 years ago.

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Post by [deleted] »

barneygumble742 wrote: post #25
JustSomeNobody wrote: post #2

Part of me really hopes the internet heads into the crapper within the next couple years. It's time for a reboot anyway, to clear the cruft.

Reboot the internet with IPv6 and now all your internal devices will be openly addressable to the internet. I see nothing good coming from that.

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Re: Ajit Pai says you’re going to love the death of net neutrality

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Post by shadofx »

hartator wrote: post #23
pavel_lishin wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Most of the repelled rules were in effect only since 2014. I don't remember the web being a terrible place before 2014.

ISPs really only started abusing their power in 2011-12, hijacking connections to point to their own stuff, blocking video, etc. They got sued. Then the FCC got tired of wasting money in court so they made it a rule.

Re: Ajit Pai says you’re going to love the death of net neutrality

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Post by 8u23u0893290u »

hartator wrote: post #23
pavel_lishin wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Most of the repelled rules were in effect only since 2014. I don't remember the web being a terrible place before 2014.

Not a shock since human memory is awful:

https://www.cnet.com/news/fcc-formally-rules-comcasts-thrott...

They've even been blocking legal speech, so:

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/us/27verizon.html

You know

All is good. Keep following orders!

Re: Ajit Pai says you’re going to love the death of net neutrality

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Post by pmoriarty »

mistrial9 wrote: post #19

There is a city here with a six lane freeway running right through the middle of many previous residential areas.. It might seem obvious that a six lane freeway produces constant noise, heavy particulate matter in the air all year, and a constant blanket of heavy matter downwind on every surface, the soil, your clothes, etc.. The benefit of this heavy motorway is that areas far from the city became the new (wealthy)…

"I expect somewhat similar rise in fortunes, and drop in privileges, associated with the new 'un-Net'."

I wonder if the rise of "un-Net" could provide an incentive for people to get involved in alternative ways of connecting with one another, such as something like mesh networking.

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