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Dear Microsoft: Please Do Pinned Menus Like This

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Re: Dear Microsoft: Please Do Pinned Menus Like This

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Post by ollysb »

wccrawford wrote: post #4

I have to agree with this article in that there is FAR too much text being added to the webpage for this functionality. Separating it out into a separate file is the way to go. You know, like CSS already does.

I also agree. Given that the pinned menu isn't even rendered in the browser it seems strange to describe this resource in a page. The lifecycle doesn't fit at all. If the content of the pinned menu changes I wouldn't expect to have to reload a page in the browser. Windows will be making a request for the page resource and then completely ignoring the html.

Re: Dear Microsoft: Please Do Pinned Menus Like This

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Post by trezor »

houseabsolute wrote: post #29

Maybe I'm just out of touch, but does anyone actually use the pinned menu? If no, does it matter how Microsoft decides to implement this? It seems like it's a feature roughly on the importance level of their web snippets feature; that is, not very important at all.

I use the jumplists, pinned and recent documents/files/sites for a bunch of apps in Windows 7 (Outlook, Chrome, Visual Studio, Notepad, Remote desktop, etc etc).

If websites comes to support this, I'm pretty sure I will welcome that as a feature. Not required by any means, but a nice extra.

Re: Dear Microsoft: Please Do Pinned Menus Like This

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Post by aik »

houseabsolute wrote: post #29

Maybe I'm just out of touch, but does anyone actually use the pinned menu? If no, does it matter how Microsoft decides to implement this? It seems like it's a feature roughly on the importance level of their web snippets feature; that is, not very important at all.

I think it's great. I use it to pin common folders I visit, as well as notepad, word, and excel documents. It gets me what I want quickly.

Re: Dear Microsoft: Please Do Pinned Menus Like This

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Post by mfukar »

psadauskas wrote: post #26
mrkurt wrote: post #12

I mostly agree, with the exception of two things: 1) It's much easier to stick meta tags in HTML than it is to reference an external file in many cases (blog hosting services, hosted storefronts, etc). 2) Sites that make the best use of that menu will have different data depending on what page is pinned. We didn't do much implementation, but assuming enough people used IE9 we'd probably make that set of meta tags pag…

Interesting. I would have expected the Menu to be identical for a site or application. Maybe have different ones for a forum vs a dashboard, but identical between topics in the forum. What is the use-case for a different menu per-page? Do you expect users to pin different pages? And even gzipped, 260B * 1M pageviews/day is ~ 1GB a month. Plus the memory to hold the text, the CPU to compress it, versus serving a stati…

1 GB a month? I download more than that in half an hour.

Re: Dear Microsoft: Please Do Pinned Menus Like This

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Post by SapphireSun »

mfukar wrote: post #34
psadauskas wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. I would have expected the Menu to be identical for a site or application. Maybe have different ones for a forum vs a dashboard, but identical between topics in the forum. What is the use-case for a different menu per-page? Do you expect users to pin different pages? And even gzipped, 260B * 1M pageviews/day is ~ 1GB a month. Plus the memory to hold the text, the CPU to compress it, versus serving a stati…

1 GB a month? I download more than that in half an hour.

Also, if you have 1M viewers a month, that 1 GB is probably a drop in the bucket.

Re: Dear Microsoft: Please Do Pinned Menus Like This

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Post by houseabsolute »

zokier wrote: post #30
houseabsolute wrote: post #29

Maybe I'm just out of touch, but does anyone actually use the pinned menu? If no, does it matter how Microsoft decides to implement this? It seems like it's a feature roughly on the importance level of their web snippets feature; that is, not very important at all.

Considering that it's a upcoming feature in IE9 which is yet to be released, it is premature to say if anyone will actually use it.

There are already jumplists for other applications. That's what I was asking about.
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