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4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager

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Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager

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4chan is the last and only bastion of free speech on the internet. I know most here still think it's about trolling/racism/sharing shocking images, but I've seen there the most interesting discussions that cannot be found anywhere else. I agree that /pol/ is full retards, but there is also /his/, /g/, /sci/ and /mu/

Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager

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post #18

Indeed, nearly every evil of the internet begins, or picks up steam, on the site. To invoke yet another metaphor: It’s a breeding ground. (The fact that 4chan has been called so many things suggests a feeble attempt to make sense of chaos.) Many of the recruitment techniques of the so-called alt-right were piloted there; many white nationalists started out as 4channers. It’s unclear if or how one ages out of the site…

They're ignoring the fact that much of current internet culture also originated there.

Current Internet culture is toxic so yeah - I guess that makes sense. 4chan was all fun and games until it started effecting people IRL. Swastikas are only funny when there's no chance they'll infiltrate the real world. When nazis are being elected, it's not so funny anymore.

Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager

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post #23

wow, this is an example of some horrible, horrible journalism. I could tell after first two paragraphs, that the author did not spend more than 15 minutes on the site itself and most of her "facts" come from lazily googled trivia. I spent more time, than I'd like to admit on this and similiar imageboards. I still visit it semi-regulary (only fitness board nowadays), but this description as place where only edgy teena…

So many of these "journalists" are just filing stories with barely any research because there are no consequences. When you pick a topic like 4chan and you are criticized, absolutely nothing will happen to you. In fact, all you need to do is say "racists and misogynists are after me" and you will become the next story. There will invariably some subset of clowns who say hateful stuff on social media, and they will be held up as the norm.

The media has also turned up their "if you criticize our work it means you hate a free press" sensitivity meter, so as such there will never be any consequences for poor quality journalism unless the problem is fixed at the editorial level. There is no incentive to do it though.

Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager

#34

>Not that you’d want to be there. The most popular boards on 4chan are typically /pol/, a place for what they say is “politically incorrect” (read: racism, misogyny, homophobia) So this is what the article is about. /pol/ offended some journalist's sensibilities. I bet they're laughing at him right now.

Yeah, the author is just totally #triggered. Gay people are an abomination? That's just my opinion bro. Brown people definitely have lower IQ than white people; thems just the facts. Women are objectively inferior in every way but I can't get one because they love to date assholes, and not me, an intelligent nice guy who's definitely sane and well balanced.

Stop being such a snowflake and support fuzzy peaches.

Because this needs to be said, since the above statements are extremely ubiquitous on /pol/, I am mocking OP for condensing all the nastiness on /pol/ to somehow being only personally affrontable to the journalist who wrote the article.

The journalist is right to call out 4chan for allowing this shit to spread.

Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager

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post #14

How many of these anti-4chan articles are written by people that regularly use it? I'm guessing zero. 4chan is an interesting site and has better discussion from a broad userbase than reddit or here. Plenty of interesting projects were born out of 4chan, particularly /g/ but the other boards have created valuable things for humans in general, not just internet culture. The positives IMO come from the whole "FREE SPEE…

Are we going to just ignore how bigoted and racist 4chan is in general?

Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager

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post #27
post #14

How many of these anti-4chan articles are written by people that regularly use it? I'm guessing zero. 4chan is an interesting site and has better discussion from a broad userbase than reddit or here. Plenty of interesting projects were born out of 4chan, particularly /g/ but the other boards have created valuable things for humans in general, not just internet culture. The positives IMO come from the whole "FREE SPEE…

Well, nobody's going to keep using a site they hate unless they have to. > ignore the crap you don't care about The problem is that plenty of people seem to use it for recruiting to make the world worse for non-users, whether by campaigns of organised harassment or disinformation, or other means.

First point: then why write an article about it? Get someone who knows what they're talking about.

For your second point, how is that unique to 4chan? Every message board I've ever used does stuff like that.

Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager

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post #14

How many of these anti-4chan articles are written by people that regularly use it? I'm guessing zero. 4chan is an interesting site and has better discussion from a broad userbase than reddit or here. Plenty of interesting projects were born out of 4chan, particularly /g/ but the other boards have created valuable things for humans in general, not just internet culture. The positives IMO come from the whole "FREE SPEE…

/prog/ used to have an incredible amount of good discussion about programming. The perfect blend of memery to break the monotony with the perfect amount of puzzles and challenges and debate to keep it stimulating.

RIP

Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager

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post #36
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, nobody's going to keep using a site they hate unless they have to. > ignore the crap you don't care about The problem is that plenty of people seem to use it for recruiting to make the world worse for non-users, whether by campaigns of organised harassment or disinformation, or other means.

First point: then why write an article about it? Get someone who knows what they're talking about. For your second point, how is that unique to 4chan? Every message board I've ever used does stuff like that.

...what message boards are you using that every single one of them "does stuff like that"?

Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager

#39

Summary: grouchy suburban dad who realizes he isn't cool anymore shakes fist at rebellious neighborhood kids, shouting that they need to grow up. Why is it that whenever a mainstream site like Wired pumps out an article looking down their noses at some "problematic" online community, it's immediately obvious that the author has never been part of said community and instead bases their overly simplistic views on an ho…

Purely optimized for clicks and shares. Also, any amount of perceived approval of something controversial will get a nuclear reaction from Twitter demanding the author's job or going to the advertisers saying "look at this stuff that they are okay with!"

Re: 4Chan Is Turning 15–And Remains the Internet's Teenager

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post #37
post #14

How many of these anti-4chan articles are written by people that regularly use it? I'm guessing zero. 4chan is an interesting site and has better discussion from a broad userbase than reddit or here. Plenty of interesting projects were born out of 4chan, particularly /g/ but the other boards have created valuable things for humans in general, not just internet culture. The positives IMO come from the whole "FREE SPEE…

/prog/ used to have an incredible amount of good discussion about programming. The perfect blend of memery to break the monotony with the perfect amount of puzzles and challenges and debate to keep it stimulating. RIP

/g/ still has daily programming threads
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