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Uber CEO says Uber and Alphabet are discussing working together on self-driving

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Re: Uber CEO says Uber and Alphabet are discussing working together on self-driving

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is such a well-defined problem with clear constraints, it's not the kind of R&D that can fail in the sense of a drug with unacceptable side effects or a high-tech fighter jet which becomes an overpriced boondoggle. It's simple navigation of paved, mapped roads with an array of sensors. Except perhaps for really harsh weather, even the edgiest edge cases are pretty limited in scope. The absolute worst case scenar…

You understated the constraints and missed the most important one: almost never, ever kill anyone . Driving around is relatively easy. Driving around and almost never killing anyone is much harder.

You have to do better than not killing anyone. Every single accident, including ones not your fault, will be used against you to argue that your systems are death traps. You can't injure people, or cause property damage, or even be rear ended. You have to produce cars that are able to drive so defensively, that insurance is no longer necessary

Re: Uber CEO says Uber and Alphabet are discussing working together on self-driving

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The article is actually saying that Dara Khosrowshahi would like to talk to Alphabet about this matter, which is not surprising given how Uber's own project is going. There's no indication of enthusiasm for this on Alphabet's part, however.

Really Alphabet has the cards and will have to decide if want to give access to the Waymo cars or not.

Did think Waymo more interested in the Android model versus the iPhone model.

Re: Uber CEO says Uber and Alphabet are discussing working together on self-driving

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post #8

'Autonomous' is an adjective.

So is "mobile". It used to be awkward and embarrassing when someone said things like "focusing on mobile" but then we got used to it I guess. The same might happen here (though "driverless" will probably be more common than "autonomous".)

I don't have to like it. I am still bothered by "mobile", "solar", "nuclear" (or "nookyular"), and the rest. I'm willing to die on this hill — or to stand on it, waving my arms, showing that one man at least cares about the English language.

Re: Uber CEO says Uber and Alphabet are discussing working together on self-driving

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post #5

Another way of looking at this: after the Phoenix accident, Uber realized that its own autonomous tech is woefully inadequate and years behind Waymo's, so now they're trying to play nice to not get left behind.

As the case is, they've always wanted to use Google's cars. They only started investing in their own program because they felt like Google had shut them out.

That is not true. They had an opportunity to get the Google technology basically stollen and had nothing to do with Google offering or not offering.

Now Google called them on it their hands are tied as can't do on their own.

I suspect Google will work with them as Google wants the Android model and NOT the iPhone model.

Google wants to be the standard for everyone.

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