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Finland's cities are havens for library lovers

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Re: Finland's cities are havens for library lovers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Facebook is a more efficient way to spread especially false information.

The exact same books are available electronically nowadays, and are likely to be more up to date than a paper version. Building a library won't make anyone stop reading facebook drivel.

Anything published by Pearson is very expensive, as are a lot of textbooks.

Librarians are also teachers and education is your best hope for fighting misinformation.

Re: Finland's cities are havens for library lovers

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Whats so great about libraries? Seems like a very inefficient way to store/disseminate information in 2018

My 2 reasons -

Libraries are designed specifically to be distraction free environments where one can focus. The internet might have all the info ever produced, but it is also the most distracting place ever created. And as more and more people get overloaded with info they aren't trained to deal with the craving for more focus and less distracting spaces is going to increase.

On the internet any half baked article passes for information. In the library the neuroscience floor doesn't have shelves and shelves of books written by kooks, that you have to wade through and filter out to find quality. This is huge advantage if you are doing any sort of serious work.

Re: Finland's cities are havens for library lovers

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Whats so great about libraries? Seems like a very inefficient way to store/disseminate information in 2018

I’d say libraries were a less efficient way of accessing information in 2008. In 2018 we are in a third wave of internet where things are getting dumbed down.

It’s much easier to find useful, factual content in books than via google, especially as social media slop has eaten the world.

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Living in Finland when I was a child, one of the hilights every week was a trip to the local library with mom. First the comic books, then novels, then the crazy amount of music as CD's that you were by law able to rip to your computer. The local library had a massive influence to my personal growth and if you needed some book, film or album, you just talked with the librarians and you got it in a couple of days. Suc…

Yes, the law is the same in Sweden. The local library homepage used to have instructions how to copy CD:s but can't find it any more after the update they did last year. Still legal though, we pay a fixed amount per hard drive or empty cd we buy for this.

Re: Finland's cities are havens for library lovers

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Whats so great about libraries? Seems like a very inefficient way to store/disseminate information in 2018

Modern libraries double up as community centers, tool libraries, and (sometimes) maker- or hacker-spaces. They're also hella egalitarian. Anyone can walk in and learn, or be entertained, for free.

Re: Finland's cities are havens for library lovers

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Whats so great about libraries? Seems like a very inefficient way to store/disseminate information in 2018

Digital has hardly replaced analogue as the superior form of anything. Providing services digitally is more convenient but the experience is still often second rate. Inefficient? Hardly. A book in paper form is considered by many people to be superior form of digesting complex information. Secondly, a library contains a) librarians that help you find what you need b) huge curated collections of books, carefully categ…

> a library contains a) librarians that help you find what you need

I wonder how long this will last in Finland, actually. Banking in Finland, for example, has slashed employees drastically and tried to get customers to do as much as possible online instead of visiting a branch and talking to a human being who has to be paid an expensive salary.

So far, at libraries in Helsinki you can easily talk to a librarian who is willing to help you find whatever obscure publications or media you are looking for. But some bureaucrat or political faction obsessed with cost-cutting and automation could see this as a bad thing and believe that library patrons should instead to expected to figure out how to just use Helmet/Helka/Arsca (Helsinki’s library catalogues) on their own, except perhaps for a very limited time slot each day.

Re: Finland's cities are havens for library lovers

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Whats so great about libraries? Seems like a very inefficient way to store/disseminate information in 2018

Outside of the information angle that many already responded, libraries are also do other things than just store information. For many, libraries are the primary way that they can get on the internet, use a computer, print resumes, become digitally literate, etc... Forward thinking libraries have embraced their role in the community as a place for emerging authors to engage and/or places to capture the information that only exists locally.

My vision for libraries even goes farther, and that in addition to the above they should be default meeting places. Instead of meeting at a coffee shop, people should be meeting at libraries and it should be embraced. Libraries should have sections where discussions can happen, and the local community comes together.

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