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Re: The new Google News: AI meets human intelligence

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I wrote an angry email to a Politifact intern after seeing this article: http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/apr/03/... They rated this article as "pants on fire" for reporting on something that came directly from the mouth of a public official. The politifact intern actually reached out to the official in question and he personally confirmed that he gave the outlet bad information, and yet it retain…

I don't understand your objection. The Politifact assessment of "pants on fire" is not for the public official, it's for the conspiracy websites that are peddling the public official's mistake to intentionally mislead people. Read the end of the article ("Our ruling"): > A website pushing conspiracy theories claimed that the March For Our Lives permit was actually prepared months in advance. > We contacted the police…

Well for starters, they haven't ignored the correction. https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2018/04/05/parklathe-curiou...

It's a valid question: large events like this march require considerable coordination among public services and permits are necessary to make sure that police and EMS and public transport can react, and navigating the bureaucratic machine for getting a permit is, by official D.C. guidelines, estimated to take at least 6 months. This march took place only a bit more than a month after the Parkland shooting. If people are to believe that this large march was organically organized in just a month, it must be the case that some public officials pulled strings and made exceptions for them, and that is a story in its own right. Or, on the other hand, it must be the case that this march was planned in advance of the shooting, and was thus not organized organically by student groups, but was perhaps something that was intended to happen anyway, but was repurposed in light of the shooting in Florida, which would change a purportedly grassroots event into something with much less meaning and arguably paints the true organizers as opportunists.

Well, this someone sent an email in search of that question, and got a response, and this website reported on it: they heard that a permit application was received prior to the shooting. I don't see how it's their responsibility to continually check back with the officer that was consulted in order to be sure that he really meant what he said. But, as mentioned, the article contains mention of the fact that the officer has since rescinded his date, and another article is linked that pieces together the timeline.

I don't see how it's fair to label them as liars. They haven't lied. They reported on a response from a public official. They've even edited the article to make mention of the rescinding of the comment. What more should they do, remove the article outright?

(edit: for the record, I feel it is necessary to say that I do not regularly read this blog, I came across the fellowshipoftheminds.com post as a result of seeing the politifact article on reddit, I do not endorse the site in question)

Re: The new Google News: AI meets human intelligence

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> And if you want to support your favorite news sources, we’ve made it simple to subscribe with your Google account. This means no more forms, credit card numbers, or new passwords. And soon, thanks to the new Subscribe with Google platform (launched as a part of the Google News Initiative), you’ll get access to your paid content everywhere—on all platforms and devices, on Google News, Google Search, and on publisher…

All I want is an option to pay $10/mo for news to all sources, and let each publisher receive the proportion of that that my clicks determine.

Re: The new Google News: AI meets human intelligence

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post #9

I don't want personalized news, I use Google News for the exact opposite reason. I want to see semi-random headlines from a variety of source to increase my exposure to stories I might not have seen otherwise.

Same like Google news does not take sides. But assume it will continue with these changes?

Re: The new Google News: AI meets human intelligence

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> I don't want personalized news, I use Google News for the exact opposite reason. That's what I used to use google news for too. Then a few years ago, google "personalized" and "localize"d news to your area and it became pointless. Google news was especially great for international events in the early 2010s because you'd get international sources listed back then. So you could see the difference in coverage between…

> Now, google news is just mostly NYTimes and Washingtonpost stories. What? This is certainly not my experience. I just went to news.google.com in my desktop browser, and I clicked on the World section. On the Iran sanctions/deal story, there are several sources grouped together in one card. The top source is indeed Washington post but the same card also contains coverage from Mehr News Agency (which it highlights as…

This was not my experience, my feed has been flooded by NYT and WSP stories. This normally wouldn't be a problem but these stories are often different takes on current events and the algorithm is bad serving related articles for these stories. The result is a feed full meta analysis about the news without the actual news.

Re: The new Google News: AI meets human intelligence

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post #9

I don't want personalized news, I use Google News for the exact opposite reason. I want to see semi-random headlines from a variety of source to increase my exposure to stories I might not have seen otherwise.

They address this: some stuff are personalized, but not everything.

"content in Full Coverage is the same for everyone—it’s an unpersonalized view of events from a range of trusted news sources."

Re: The new Google News: AI meets human intelligence

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> And if you want to support your favorite news sources, we’ve made it simple to subscribe with your Google account. This means no more forms, credit card numbers, or new passwords. And soon, thanks to the new Subscribe with Google platform (launched as a part of the Google News Initiative), you’ll get access to your paid content everywhere—on all platforms and devices, on Google News, Google Search, and on publisher…

All I want is an option to pay $10/mo for news to all sources, and let each publisher receive the proportion of that that my clicks determine.

Wouldn't that exacerbate clickbait?

Re: The new Google News: AI meets human intelligence

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post #7

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There's definitely an agenda out there, FB and Google now are both using Snopes for fact-checking. https://steemit.com/health/@holisticgreen/snopes-is-the-auth...

The agenda is the garbage article you just posted. I've never seen such a severe case of ad hominem.

The garbage article I posted at least sheds a little bit of light on the fact that snopes is not the bastion of integrity that for some reason it's being portrayed as via both Google and FB.

Also congratulations if that's literally the most severe case of ad hominem you've ever seen.

Also worth noting: I linked that article because it was the first source I found via searching that highlighted all the shady stuff that founders have done. I'm not aligned with the additional views of the author of that article.

Re: The new Google News: AI meets human intelligence

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post #9

I don't want personalized news, I use Google News for the exact opposite reason. I want to see semi-random headlines from a variety of source to increase my exposure to stories I might not have seen otherwise.

> see semi-random headlines from a variety of source to increase my exposure to stories I might not have seen otherwise Isn't that exactly personalized news? But you can just load it on incognito or signed out and not have any personalization other than location/country.

Personalization does not arise from passive use. Consider the converse, articles from a list of user selected sources. That sounds more like personalized news. Besides Google News used to function that way so I think I should be entitled to my opinion of how it should function.

Re: The new Google News: AI meets human intelligence

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All I want is an option to pay $10/mo for news to all sources, and let each publisher receive the proportion of that that my clicks determine.

Wouldn't that exacerbate clickbait?

If get clickbaited 2 or three times, I stop browsing your site.
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