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Lyme Disease Is on the Rise Again

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If you're a hiker, permethrin. Spray down your socks, pants, shirts. Let it dry. You're good to go for a dozen outings. Non toxic to humans, and orderless.

Not legal in Canada. Then again there's few ticks in Canada's north, so Canadian hikers should just explore the northern part of their provinces.

Yes, but Lake Huron has some of the best dunes and freshwater beaches in Canada. It'd be hard to give that up.

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I got lyme disease after my first and only (as far as I know) tick bite. A round of antibiotics seems to have killed it, though I am still noticeably more tired than before the infection (anacdata, could just be because I'm getting older and under a lot of stress). I reported where and when the infection took place on a local website which tracks these things. I informed the city council (considering this happened in…

I too often feel fatigued but wonder what part of that is just lifestyle / age etc vs any lasting effects.

The levels of exhaustion before I knew what I had and was treated, were insane. Often asked myself how I could be so tired.

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Fingers crossed there will be a vaccine back in production within a couple years.

Given that there are 16+ tickborne illnesses, the impact would be limited. If you get bitten by a tick then you should probably just go on antibiotics anyway, since there is no comprehensive test for tickborne illnesses.

That is not a viable option for many people working in nature. Farmers, sheperds, folks working in a Zoo, etc. They not have to take antibiotics constantly.

The fact that there are no good vaccines really makes me mad, especially as a hiker.

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If you're a hiker, permethrin. Spray down your socks, pants, shirts. Let it dry. You're good to go for a dozen outings. Non toxic to humans, and orderless.

Not legal in Canada. Then again there's few ticks in Canada's north, so Canadian hikers should just explore the northern part of their provinces.

Might need to carry a flame thrower for the black flies though!

Re: Lyme Disease Is on the Rise Again

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Fingers crossed there will be a vaccine back in production within a couple years.

Given that there are 16+ tickborne illnesses, the impact would be limited. If you get bitten by a tick then you should probably just go on antibiotics anyway, since there is no comprehensive test for tickborne illnesses.

True, but according to the article, "Lyme disease accounts for about 80 percent of the tick-borne illnesses in the U.S."

Plenty of people who get Lyme don't get the rash, and don't necessarily even know they were bitten by a tick. Deer ticks are tiny and you have to check yourself thoroughly to see them. An effective vaccine would be very helpful.

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according to wikipedia permethrin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permethrin kills bees...

I'm pretty sure it kills all insects, but the bees would have to land on your treated clothing to be affected.

One can guess that the primary source of release of the chemical is not by rubbing yourself on things, but from washing your clothes. Thus, it would end up in the oceans.

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If you're a hiker, permethrin. Spray down your socks, pants, shirts. Let it dry. You're good to go for a dozen outings. Non toxic to humans, and orderless.

Not legal in Canada. Then again there's few ticks in Canada's north, so Canadian hikers should just explore the northern part of their provinces.

That's unfortunate, I still spray before I leave to hike in Banff from the US though :)

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I wonder how widespread Lyme Disease has to get before the economic incentives to develop a new vaccine reach a tipping point. There used to be a vaccine but it was discontinued because of insufficient demand. https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/lyme-disease-v... "In April 2002, GSK announced that even with the incidence of Lyme disease continuing to rise, sales for LYMErix declined from about 1.5 million d…

LYMErix suffered from actual or imagined side-effects that led to lawsuits, which were a factor in GSK discontinuing it. From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870557/ "Spawned by the press coverage of vaccine risks and the ongoing litigation, vaccine sales fell off dramatically in 2001. " there's at least one new vaccine in development http://www.valneva.com/en/rd/vla15

Aside from the rare negative effects, the major issues with it were the efficacy of around 80% and that it interfered with Lyme tests. (All of the people that took the vaccine test positive for Lyme Disease.) This uncertainty made it challenging to know the cause of future illness.

Re: Lyme Disease Is on the Rise Again

#40

Fingers crossed there will be a vaccine back in production within a couple years.

Given that there are 16+ tickborne illnesses, the impact would be limited. If you get bitten by a tick then you should probably just go on antibiotics anyway, since there is no comprehensive test for tickborne illnesses.

Yeah, I've heard if you accidentally breath secondhand smoke you should probably start chemo too just to be safe.

Seriously though, if you actually hike in the northeast outdoors dealing with ticks are not a rare situation. In this past week alone I have had 2 deer ticks and 5 wood ticks on me . 1 wood tick actually did bite and it would be absurd to start an antibiotic course at this point.

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