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Re: Herman Miller Cosm Chair

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Post by bpicolo »

jitl wrote: post #24
bovermyer wrote: post #20

I much prefer the DXRacer King Zero: https://www.dxracer.com/au/en-au/product/1/gaming_chair/king...

This looks like an OfficeMax chair with red trim.

The premium model gaming-market chairs (AKRacing/DXRacer) are actually great as general office chairs, I'm super happy with mine. They also have office-styled versions (e.g. https://www.akracing.com/product/obsidian-office-chair/)

The quality is definitely far beyond the office max special. I was surprised by the box the thing came in - absolutely massive. The chair is a tank

Re: Herman Miller Cosm Chair

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Post by riffic »

NickM wrote: post #15

Every Herman Miller chair I've tried (and several other brands of "ergonomic" chairs) seem to be designed in such a way that there's a big gap in support around the mid-back area, in-between the lumbar area and the shoulder blades. There's very firm, forward support for the lumbar spine and shoulders, and then this weird gap in the middle. This causes my mid-back to round into the empty space, which in turn causes my…

Eames Aluminum Group, looks good, feels good.

Re: Herman Miller Cosm Chair

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Post by ghaff »

chiefgeek wrote: post #26

I used Aerons for several years back when they first came out. While they are really nice looking, I and my staff found them to be terribly uncomfortable. We all went and tested multiple chairs at the Merchandise Mart. The Steelcase Leap was the clear winner. I still have and use several of them almost 20 years later. The Aeron has two major flaws, IMHO. It looks like the Cosm may have the same. 1.) Arms that recline…

I think there are mesh people and seat cushion people. I have an Aeron at home and we had Leaps in the conference room at a previous employer. The Leaps are fine but I much prefer the Aeron. For one thing, I find it much cooler in hot weather.

Re: Herman Miller Cosm Chair

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Post by 198739834 »

Herman Miller chairs are somewhat of a scam. They aren't really ergonomic in that they round inwards at the top edges around where your shoulder blades contact with the mesh. If you actually have good posture, this will round your shoulders inwards as well.

People can say how much they love their Aeron all over the internet, but you have to understand what that means. They are just saying that they feel good while sitting in them, which often means they sit hunched over and it makes them relaxed. This doesn't mean the chair is helping them in any way. Often it means that the chair is compensating for their poor posture and making them feel good despite not being healthy.

You can see videos all over youtube of people actually working while sitting in Herman Miller chairs, and they all have poor posture. For example:

https://youtu.be/_R8bIIQxajA?t=15

https://youtu.be/cGEb-q5JMU0?t=17

Most chairs above around $500 will be fine. That is to say, you will still suffer serious health issues like everyone else who sits down all day, but the chair should not cause any pain while you are sitting down.

If you have back pain and so on, you should probably go to the gym, which will be the ultimately way to feel comfortable at work and everywhere else. Although, it still will do little to reverse the effects of sitting down all day. Programming is a career that guarantees immediate and serious health issues due to sitting and poor posture.

Re: Herman Miller Cosm Chair

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Post by NickM »

encoderer wrote: post #25
NickM wrote: post #15

Every Herman Miller chair I've tried (and several other brands of "ergonomic" chairs) seem to be designed in such a way that there's a big gap in support around the mid-back area, in-between the lumbar area and the shoulder blades. There's very firm, forward support for the lumbar spine and shoulders, and then this weird gap in the middle. This causes my mid-back to round into the empty space, which in turn causes my…

Curious, are you using their lumbar insert? I used to and always found it uncomfortable. I later learned from a Herman Miller rep that most people shouldn’t use it and the chair provides support from the large mesh contact surface. Since removing it I’ve been way more comfortable, going on 5 years now.

Maybe that would've helped for the Mirra, though I did tend to keep it at its minimum setting anyway, since I also found it rather uncomfortable. But the Embody and Freedom chairs have no removable lumbar support to begin with....

Re: Herman Miller Cosm Chair

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Post by rhapsodic »

sofaofthedamned wrote: post #12
jaybna wrote: post #8

Makes me think of line from fuckedcompany.com during Bubble 1.0: “You can have my Aeron when you pry it from my cold, dead ass”

That brings back memories. Wonder what he's doing now? I've got 2 Aerons in my home office right now and they're awesome. Cost me £100 each, 6 months old, bought from a government department who paid a fortune for them. That's where your tax money goes it seems.

>That brings back memories. Wonder what he's doing now?

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=pud

Re: Herman Miller Cosm Chair

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Post by [deleted] »

chiefgeek wrote: post #26

I used Aerons for several years back when they first came out. While they are really nice looking, I and my staff found them to be terribly uncomfortable. We all went and tested multiple chairs at the Merchandise Mart. The Steelcase Leap was the clear winner. I still have and use several of them almost 20 years later. The Aeron has two major flaws, IMHO. It looks like the Cosm may have the same. 1.) Arms that recline…

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Re: Herman Miller Cosm Chair

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Post by RubyTuesdae »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #11
RubyTuesdae wrote: post #9

Wait a year or so and you can pick one up for half-price on the used market from the failed dot coms that bought them new and then ran out of money 6 months later and laid everybody off. Here in the south bay area, you can pick up Aeron chairs at consignment shops for a couple hundred bucks.

I looked for quite a while but couldn't find a large model on the second hand market so ended up buying new.

They do come and go pretty quickly. You need to be at the right place at the right time.
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