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OkCupid's “Removed” Visitor API

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Re: OkCupid's “Removed” Visitor API

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I never get it why people who discover secrets like these make extra sure nobody else can ever enjoy them again. Just use the undocumented feature and don't make a big thing out of it. This way it's ruined for everybody, and they get nothing in return, except for some HN points on their blog post.

This sort of comment is in line with their post history so no, likely not sarcasm.

Who are you?

Re: OkCupid's “Removed” Visitor API

#32
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You specify it as part of your profile. If you pay for A-List (paid plan), you can filter potential matches by body type. Disclosure: Paying OKCupid customer. I don't mind paying to support the service, it's provided ongoing value to us.

I have to wonder how effective paying for a dating site really is. Presumably if you find a partner through the site you stop paying? Aside from a token few they can blog about, what's their incentive to be successful?

There are always more people being born.

Their incentive to help you find mates is so that future people will join the platform due to you saying "OkCupid worked for me."

Re: OkCupid's “Removed” Visitor API

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post #2

I never get it why people who discover secrets like these make extra sure nobody else can ever enjoy them again. Just use the undocumented feature and don't make a big thing out of it. This way it's ruined for everybody, and they get nothing in return, except for some HN points on their blog post.

Don't know if you're sarcastic, but I prefer privacy related issues like this to be surfaced and would call it morally wrong not doing so.

There would be no privacy issues if the users did not give up that private data willingly in the first place. A-ok with random company on the internet having access to it, but suddenly other random parties exploiting it are "creepy"? It was being shared with advertisers and analytics providers anyway.

Re: OkCupid's “Removed” Visitor API

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to wonder how effective paying for a dating site really is. Presumably if you find a partner through the site you stop paying? Aside from a token few they can blog about, what's their incentive to be successful?

Likely depends on the type of partner you're seeking/find. Those who are seeking committed long term relationships, yes, likely cancel. Those who are seeking short-term/multiple relationships and would like a revolving door of them... subscriptions continue to renew. Probably has a lot to do with the price points between 'casual' dating sites/apps like Tinder and OKCupid compared to something 'more serious' like http…

How many lunches is $2,800?

Re: OkCupid's “Removed” Visitor API

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You specify it as part of your profile. If you pay for A-List (paid plan), you can filter potential matches by body type. Disclosure: Paying OKCupid customer. I don't mind paying to support the service, it's provided ongoing value to us.

I have to wonder how effective paying for a dating site really is. Presumably if you find a partner through the site you stop paying? Aside from a token few they can blog about, what's their incentive to be successful?

I think their incentive to be successful is word-of-mouth advertising. I'd never considered online dating until both my aunt and a couple at work had success with it. I tried their service and also met someone I very nearly married.

Granted, I've never paid for a dating service. But the business model is much like Facebook's: get a bunch of free users to voluntarily give personal data about themselves, then sell that data to power users. There's a good degree of faith that online dating works in general (which is bolstered by successful matches), and some people are willing to pay for an advantage in finding someone (and in being found).

Re: OkCupid's “Removed” Visitor API

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How does this even happen? How can the developers behind an endpoint like this not confirm/test that it requires permissions/authentication to consume? (I mean, look at all that data...) Amateurs I can understand - but OKCupid has been around long enough they shouldn't be employing people of that nature. Is there no code review process? This is just nuts.

"Visitors" was actually a feature up until a few months back. They probably removed it from the front-end, but left it in the back-end. This is very, very common. There would be not much to "review."

Re: OkCupid's “Removed” Visitor API

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> However, they gave no answer for why unnecessary data was being provided.

I mean, it was obviously a bug, right? I imagine the only "explanation" would involve detailing the origin and nature of the bug which would be unwise until they've gone through all their other endpoints to ensure that there's not another instance of this same information leaking.

Re: OkCupid's “Removed” Visitor API

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You specify it as part of your profile. If you pay for A-List (paid plan), you can filter potential matches by body type. Disclosure: Paying OKCupid customer. I don't mind paying to support the service, it's provided ongoing value to us.

I have to wonder how effective paying for a dating site really is. Presumably if you find a partner through the site you stop paying? Aside from a token few they can blog about, what's their incentive to be successful?

OKCupid actually did a blog post about this, which they have since deleted. Here's a copy of it.

http://static.izs.me/why-you-should-never-pay-for-online-dat...

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