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Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the moment I think there are a few bugs with Linux support on the XPS 15 but they shouldn't last long. A friend of mine was having quite a lot of trackpad issues that don't appear to affect the 13" model.

Did they ever fix the sleep issue? That was a dealbreaker for me last year.

I don't have any issues with Suspend To Ram, if that is what you mean. I'm using a Dell XPS 15 9550 with Void Linux.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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Lots of people love the Lenovo X220, which can be upgraded with simple screwdrivers to the latest and greatest processors and motherboards using fan-made motherboards. (That’s how popular they are, fans are making newer motherboards for them. I don’t know the experience, I’m using a very old Toughbook to devel since my needs aren’t great.) What’s with the hinges? I’ve never had one fail. Granted, I’m no road warrior.

I'm surrounded by fancy machines but the X220 just keeps on finding an excuse to be used. I would say I use it more than any other machine.

The thing has a soul. I love it.

I took > 20,000 photos today from a cessna using it's inbuilt ethernet port and four machine vision cameras. When you're paying for aircraft time and are bumping around a bit, having that thing on your lap makes you feel like you have a good wing man.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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I suggest looking into the Dell XPS line (both 13 or 15 models, depending on your screen size tastes). I own a 2015 Dell XPS 13 and Linux support is amazing (long battery life, the laptop does not overheat and everything works out of the box on Ubuntu). The only weak spot is the webcam location in the lower part of the screen. Another good alternative could be the Thinkpad Carbon X line, but I don't have any direct e…

One problem with the 13" XPS is that 16GB configuration without a 4K+touchscreen display is only available in some countries (Europe, Hong Kong, ...?) I've been looking to get one (new macbook pro keyoard keeps breaking), but the buying experience has been pretty bad where I am.

I'll be in Japan later this month, and I'll probably buy an HP Envy. The XPS doesn't come in the aforementioned configuration and the Carbon X is considerably more expensive (and I can't make heads or tail of their Japanese site).

(portability is pretty important to me).

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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I built PC for $1000 which is much more powerful than my 2012 MBP and enjoying it so far. I plan to upgrade it few years later and keep using it for years. For notebook I considered Dell Latitude 5x series and probably would buy it if I needed notebook, but for me desktop is superior option, I work from one place.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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Geez I miss my old 17" Macbook Pro! Ok, it was a bulky form factor, but it was ideal size for me to do both my programming work as well as audio recording work on it.

It still works, but it is maxed out at 8GB RAM, and struggled to run most modern software, including Logic Pro X with all my usual plugins. I wish Apple would bring out a 17" Macbook Pro again in the future.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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I went through this last year.

I looked at Macbook Pro, Dell XPS15 and Thinkpad T470P.

In the end I went for the T470P (i7-7700HQ (4 core/8 thread) w/ 2560x1440 screen, 16GB of RAM (upgraded myself to 32GB)) and the bigger battery (pretty much no optional with a 35W TDP processor).

I tried the XPS15 but the keyboard was bad and the fit and finish wasn't awesome.

I've had zero issues with linux support or the machine generally, build quality is excellent, I personally like the styling but many don't.

It's so fast that I held off building a new desktop (and packed the old one away) and battery life is very good if you aren't maxing out the CPU, I've had over 8 hours of actual work time, screen is good, sharp and decently bright.

In the UK it came with a three year warranty as standard vs 1yr for the Dell.

It was also 300 quid cheaper than the Dell.

I ruled out the Macbook Pro on price and the fact I couldn't put 32GB of RAM into it.

At work I have a Ryzen 1700 with 32GB RAM and a SATA SSD, Intellij with a bunch of plugins loads faster on my thinkpad than that machine (NVMe SSD vs SATA SSD basically, the Ryzen should demolish any laptop processor with threaded code).

It's a solid little machine.

The new higher core count lower TDP intel processors look interesting, I suspect the T480P (if they do one) will have those, 35W TDP is a lot compared to 15W, I suspect that the 7700HQ will still beat them handily and extreme battery life wasn't an issue for me, anything over 5 hours is fine I'm never away from AC for longer than that.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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post #30

System76 has a line of high end Linix Laptops, if you take their OS (Ubuntu based) you get a pretty direct alternative to MacBook Pro https://system76.com/laptops

System76 is definitely on my watch list. After using a Dell XPS with, what they call an infinity edge display (means, very thin bezels, hence a 15 inch display in a <14 inch case) and 4K resolution, I'm afraid I couldn't go "back" though :o
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