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Re: China’s experiment in ranking and monitoring citizens has started

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Post by pavs »

niccccccccc wrote: post #21

There's alot of international people posting on hacker news, and alot of them have anti-US bias. They wish China would be the one that takes over US as the superpower of the world. for those people I have a comment You like posting political views on the internet right? Imagine China is the sole superpower of the world that defeated the democracies of the world. You would be ranked, censored, monitored, caught, jaile…

Please stop spreading FUDs, given the option I think most people would prefer China over USA's policy of bombing the shit out of your country to install democracy or rather pro-American democracy.

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

pavs wrote: post #31
niccccccccc wrote: post #21

There's alot of international people posting on hacker news, and alot of them have anti-US bias. They wish China would be the one that takes over US as the superpower of the world. for those people I have a comment You like posting political views on the internet right? Imagine China is the sole superpower of the world that defeated the democracies of the world. You would be ranked, censored, monitored, caught, jaile…

Please stop spreading FUDs, given the option I think most people would prefer China over USA's policy of bombing the shit out of your country to install democracy or rather pro-American democracy.

...and no consciousness of the irony in being able to post that criticism openly.

China has an absolutely appalling social justice history, including every war they've been involved in, their internal intolerance, and their record-breaking incompetence at even feeding their own people.

Re: China’s experiment in ranking and monitoring citizens has started

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Post by _jal »

lumberjack wrote: post #16

Sounds like in part, it is trying to replace the lost moral compass of Chinese society. But centralising moral authority was always a bad idea.

Confusing legal enforcement with morality is the root of a lot of the ethical rot we see in many places.

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Post by [deleted] »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #19
johnchristopher wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think it's natural to want to live in a meritocracy. That's a bold statement. Who defines the goals ? The one(s) who can attain them ?

Like school! And college! The folks that work there, are the ones that did well there. Not kidding. Its this circular 'meritocracy' argument that makes for insular, inbred organizations with few creative ideas.

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Post by psyc »

jimmytidey wrote: post #29

Commentary on China's social credit system so often fails to note the many parallels in western societies. * The West has social credit scoring: money. A key principle of market economies is that accruing money is the just reward for contributing to society. Your bank account is your social credit score - yet we all know that many people get rich without rendering a useful service to society. * Intelligence agencies…

I agree. Not that the systems are precisely equivalent, of course, but that the devil we're used to is more invisible to us.

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Post by niccccccccc »

> The West has social credit scoring: money

??? as opposed to China which has no money??

China's credit system is paired with dictatorship, censorship, disappearance, and killing. Nowhere near the similarities with West

Young Chinese activist missing after sharing plan to wear ‘Xitler’ t-shirt in public

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/11/03/young-chinese-activist...

Re: China’s experiment in ranking and monitoring citizens has started

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Post by 0x03 »

niccccccccc wrote: post #21

There's alot of international people posting on hacker news, and alot of them have anti-US bias. They wish China would be the one that takes over US as the superpower of the world. for those people I have a comment You like posting political views on the internet right? Imagine China is the sole superpower of the world that defeated the democracies of the world. You would be ranked, censored, monitored, caught, jaile…

Can you support your claims in the first paragraph?

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Post by rtx »

jimmytidey wrote: post #29

Commentary on China's social credit system so often fails to note the many parallels in western societies. * The West has social credit scoring: money. A key principle of market economies is that accruing money is the just reward for contributing to society. Your bank account is your social credit score - yet we all know that many people get rich without rendering a useful service to society. * Intelligence agencies…

This is like saying, freedom is slavery.

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Post by [deleted] »

pavs wrote: post #31
niccccccccc wrote: post #21

There's alot of international people posting on hacker news, and alot of them have anti-US bias. They wish China would be the one that takes over US as the superpower of the world. for those people I have a comment You like posting political views on the internet right? Imagine China is the sole superpower of the world that defeated the democracies of the world. You would be ranked, censored, monitored, caught, jaile…

Please stop spreading FUDs, given the option I think most people would prefer China over USA's policy of bombing the shit out of your country to install democracy or rather pro-American democracy.

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