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Facebook Scans What You Send Other People on Messenger App

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Re: Facebook Scans What You Send Other People on Messenger App

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Post by pmlnr »

hmate9 wrote: post #6

Ofcourse they do. On one hand it’s absolutely surprising that such a piece is considered “news” but on the other hand at least the general public (not just people in CS) are paying more attention to their privacy. But in this case I think it’s 100% fine, even expected in order to stop bad content (porn, abuse etc) from going through

stopping "Bad content" is a slippery slope, especially on a network, where most only talk to people they actually know and who are usually using real identities. Keep in mind it's private messaging we're talking about.

Re: Facebook Scans What You Send Other People on Messenger App

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Post by feelin_googley »

"You can't watch your kids 24/7," reads one poster, which has a picture of Schumer, Zuckerberg, and a shirtless Anthony Wiener outside Facebook's New York offices. "BUT WE CAN."

...

Schumer - who in 2016 railed that "a person's cellphone should not become a James Bond-like personal tracking device for a corporation to gather information" - has stayed relatively silent since Facebook's user data scandal with Cambridge Analytica broke last month."

Source:

https://nypost.com/2018/04/03/street-artist-taunts-schumer-o...

Re: Facebook Scans What You Send Other People on Messenger App

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Post by knz »

TYPE_FASTER wrote: post #23

When our daughter was born, and I sent an announcement via GMail, I started seeing ads for diapers. After that, I assume anything I'm doing on the internet is being data mined for advertising or some other source of revenue.

There are multiple vectors for them obtaining that information - location records from your phone, receipts for parking ramps at a hospital, any mention about a pregnancy or baby on social media in the past (pregnancy announcement etc), image recognition of the newborn, registering for baby related gifts, buying pregnancy/baby related items (books, classes, equipment etc), a third party selling your information (health insurance maybe?), or using your web search history.

It's safe to assume that much of the data we all leak is being mined for revenue.

Re: Facebook Scans What You Send Other People on Messenger App

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Post by criddell »

DRAGONERO wrote: post #12
p49k wrote: post #2

This actually sounds reasonable; most other messaging programs do the same in order to provide previews, thumbnail images, scan for malicious links or spam, etc.

Does Apple do this with iMessage? I don't think they can, even.

They could. Correct me if I'm wrong but users don't see which public keys have been used to encrypt the message's symmetric key. Theoretically Apple could easily and invisibly include themselves as a recipient.

Re: Facebook Scans What You Send Other People on Messenger App

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Post by criddell »

pmlnr wrote: post #31
hmate9 wrote: post #6

Ofcourse they do. On one hand it’s absolutely surprising that such a piece is considered “news” but on the other hand at least the general public (not just people in CS) are paying more attention to their privacy. But in this case I think it’s 100% fine, even expected in order to stop bad content (porn, abuse etc) from going through

stopping "Bad content" is a slippery slope, especially on a network, where most only talk to people they actually know and who are usually using real identities. Keep in mind it's private messaging we're talking about.

Transparency would help.

If they told you what was being blocked and why and also gave the recipient the option to override the block, then I think the slippery slope problem is minimized.

Re: Facebook Scans What You Send Other People on Messenger App

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Post by barryduffman »

username223 wrote: post #4

> "For example, on Messenger, when you send a photo, our automated systems scan it using photo matching technology to detect known child exploitation imagery or when you send a link, we scan it for malware or viruses," a Facebook Messenger spokeswoman said in a statement. "A Facebook Messenger spokeswoman" who wouldn't put her name to the statement? Ugh. Child porn is terrible, but very few people produce it or want…

If they didn't scan and detect child porn, there would be articles about how they're letting people get away with sharing child porn on Messenger. It seems there's no way for Facebook to win here, given that people want both complete privacy and also no illicit activity on the platform.
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