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Re: Ask HN: What do Facebook employees think about their company?

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This was my first question at job interview to Facebook. Luckily i got an indian developer and i knew about how aggressive facebook in his home country (does everybody remembers free basics?) and i asked about what he thinks. Answer was simple - this is a form of a competition. I think "competition" can easily justify doing shady things - any of your competitors eventually will do the same and because of this there a…

Kind of a tragedy of the commons, where personal data is the commons.

Re: Ask HN: What do Facebook employees think about their company?

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I think the way this problem is framed succumbs to an outdated world view, an image of the samurai computer hackers that put themselves in the service of the corporate lords - but are ultimately responsible for their actions against society and can choose to rebel. They are rare and prized and thus their collaboration is valued by the lords. This is a romantic vision that the companies themselves like to perpetuate,…

"will no longer redistribute the wealth to the workers, as capitalism has done for the last few hundred years"

It appears that we have vastly different opinions on how capitalism works. Capitalism needs to be coerced by laws into giving back to the workers (taxes on companies etc.) and more often than not, companies try to circumnavigate these laws.

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post #7

This was my first question at job interview to Facebook. Luckily i got an indian developer and i knew about how aggressive facebook in his home country (does everybody remembers free basics?) and i asked about what he thinks. Answer was simple - this is a form of a competition. I think "competition" can easily justify doing shady things - any of your competitors eventually will do the same and because of this there a…

I heard exactly the same rationalisation from a bunch of ex-Cambridge Analytica people (not kidding).

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post #8

Facebook employees and tech workers in general have a much wider spectrum of opinions that what echo chambers like HN allow. I personally know a lot of Facebook, Apple and Microsoft employees who voted Trump. Palantir employees who are very proud about their jobs and believe that they're making a positive impact on the world. Uber employees who believe that they're engaged in a good fight against regulation and burea…

There is nothing wrong in telling what do you feel about something when you are asked. And there is no problem in expressing an unpopular opinion on HN as you can sign-up anonymously at any time and just share whatever thoughts you want.

To play devil's advocate, in an arena where all comments are ordered by votes, the unpopular opinion would simply be downvoted to oblivion and not seen anyway. Why would someone with a contentious opinion go to the bother?

Re: Ask HN: What do Facebook employees think about their company?

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post #15
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, the dodgy salesman approach: "If they don't buy our useless thing, they will buy the same useless thing from one of our competitors anyway!"

Maybe more like: "If we don't send someone to sneak around our customers' houses looking for clues of what they might buy, one of our competitors would do the same! Besides, it's the customer's fault if they leave the door unlocked."

> Besides, it's the customer's fault if they leave the door unlocked."

More like:

> Besides, it's the customer's fault if invite us inside their home and willingly hand over the keys to the cupboards.

Re: Ask HN: What do Facebook employees think about their company?

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post #15
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, the dodgy salesman approach: "If they don't buy our useless thing, they will buy the same useless thing from one of our competitors anyway!"

Maybe more like: "If we don't send someone to sneak around our customers' houses looking for clues of what they might buy, one of our competitors would do the same! Besides, it's the customer's fault if they leave the door unlocked."

More like "lets make an online environment so comfortable for users that they are mentally fooled into thinking it is like their home away from home and they will say and do whatever is on their mind, even private thoughts."

Re: Ask HN: What do Facebook employees think about their company?

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post #8

Facebook employees and tech workers in general have a much wider spectrum of opinions that what echo chambers like HN allow. I personally know a lot of Facebook, Apple and Microsoft employees who voted Trump. Palantir employees who are very proud about their jobs and believe that they're making a positive impact on the world. Uber employees who believe that they're engaged in a good fight against regulation and burea…

There is nothing wrong in telling what do you feel about something when you are asked. And there is no problem in expressing an unpopular opinion on HN as you can sign-up anonymously at any time and just share whatever thoughts you want.

Nothing wrong until Google fires you for it.

Re: Ask HN: What do Facebook employees think about their company?

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post #7

This was my first question at job interview to Facebook. Luckily i got an indian developer and i knew about how aggressive facebook in his home country (does everybody remembers free basics?) and i asked about what he thinks. Answer was simple - this is a form of a competition. I think "competition" can easily justify doing shady things - any of your competitors eventually will do the same and because of this there a…

Two wrongs don't make a right. "Aw, but everyone else is doing it!" has never been the basis of a respectable system of morality. It's playground ethics.

Well, many people seem to excuse luminaries of the past for things like slavery saying things like "It was a different time. They should only be judged through the lens of their own culture."

It might not be a respectable system of morality, but it's a popular one.

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