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Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

#31

The only good Belkin product I have ever seen is their 12 outlet power strip. As a network engineer everything they make with an Ethernet/wifi interface is complete shit. But this is not really news, D-Link, Netgear, many of their competitors are also junk.

Do you have any recommendations for alternatives?

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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Every Belkin product I owned was garbage... but just like you I ran across a couple power strips that are surprisingly good. I don't know if they bought someone who knew what they were doing with power strips or what, but .... i'm still using them.

I have a lot of these: https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-12-Outlet-Protector-Protection... My theory is that they are good because electrical safety is something that is actually regulated. UL and CE certification to sell as a consumer device. Whereas there is no penalty or regulation for shitty routers with shit firmware.

Yup that is it, the other models are pretty capable too. I like your theory, that makes sense. Guys behind the power strips can pull the old "Nope can't cheap out here, there are standards!" While the guys working on the POS USB hub or dongle or whatever can't say the same.

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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post #31

The only good Belkin product I have ever seen is their 12 outlet power strip. As a network engineer everything they make with an Ethernet/wifi interface is complete shit. But this is not really news, D-Link, Netgear, many of their competitors are also junk.

Do you have any recommendations for alternatives?

Separate the function of wifi and router. My home office, which is bottlenecked by the docsis3.0 last mile, is on a Ubiquiti edgerouter-x ($46) router. And then a single ubnt UAP-AC 2X2 MIMO, dual band 802.11ac AP ($79).

The OS on the ubnt edgerouter series is a fork of vyatta, which is Debian based.

Also for people who know what they are doing, a mikrotik rb3011 would be a good choice.

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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Cisco had money burning a hole in their pocket and bought a some consumer stuff and then had no idea what to do with it ... so they sold most of it off, or simply discontinued it (like flip video).

Not the first time they entered and then abandoned the consumer space. Once upon a time, they made NICs.

Yup, they took their corporate video conferencing products and tried to make a consumer version (Umi I think it was) that while cheaper than the cooperate product were still absurdly expensive.

This was all while Skype pretty well established .... it was pure insanity.

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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Foxconn is Taiwanese like Asus, Acer, Gigabyte, MSI, MediaTek, D-Link, and HTC. Both Asus and D-Link are major router makers as well. Also fun fact, nearly all routers use the same chips from Boardcom. The majority of differences between routers is just firmware and packaging, the guts are all the same.

It's a RoC

Taiwan.

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every Belkin product I owned was garbage... but just like you I ran across a couple power strips that are surprisingly good. I don't know if they bought someone who knew what they were doing with power strips or what, but .... i'm still using them.

I have a lot of these: https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-12-Outlet-Protector-Protection... My theory is that they are good because electrical safety is something that is actually regulated. UL and CE certification to sell as a consumer device. Whereas there is no penalty or regulation for shitty routers with shit firmware.

> UL and CE certification to sell as a consumer device.

Reminder:

> CE marking does not provide any specific information to the consumer. It is not a quality assurance declaration, it does not show evidence of third-party testing, and it should not be confused with any independent certification mark of the type issued by international or European notified test bodies.

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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post #31

The only good Belkin product I have ever seen is their 12 outlet power strip. As a network engineer everything they make with an Ethernet/wifi interface is complete shit. But this is not really news, D-Link, Netgear, many of their competitors are also junk.

Do you have any recommendations for alternatives?

Open source to the rescue.

https://openwrt.org/toh/views/toh_available_864_ac-wifi

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

#38
post #23

The only good Belkin product I have ever seen is their 12 outlet power strip. As a network engineer everything they make with an Ethernet/wifi interface is complete shit. But this is not really news, D-Link, Netgear, many of their competitors are also junk.

Every Belkin product I owned was garbage... but just like you I ran across a couple power strips that are surprisingly good. I don't know if they bought someone who knew what they were doing with power strips or what, but .... i'm still using them.

Their power strips are pretty good, not so for another stuff I tried

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

#39
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a lot of these: https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-12-Outlet-Protector-Protection... My theory is that they are good because electrical safety is something that is actually regulated. UL and CE certification to sell as a consumer device. Whereas there is no penalty or regulation for shitty routers with shit firmware.

> UL and CE certification to sell as a consumer device. Reminder: > CE marking does not provide any specific information to the consumer. It is not a quality assurance declaration, it does not show evidence of third-party testing, and it should not be confused with any independent certification mark of the type issued by international or European notified test bodies.

You are absolutely right. I meant the TÜV test mark for Europe. I'm more familiar with us-canada stuff.

https://www.esasafe.com/electricalproducts/marks

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