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Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

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Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

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Post by chrisseaton »

canuckintime wrote: post #29

The Apple Pencil should be a key strategic advantage for the iPads and should be compatible with every model if not included in the box outright. Instead Apple restricts the Pencil to the Pro models. Microsoft won the Business world by owning the document format. Apple could win the education world by owning the handwritten notes format [1] if Pencils were standard What is Tim Cook's vision for education? Nobody fuck…

> The Apple should be a key strategic advantage for the iPads

'The Apple'? Apple is the name of the company, not any particular product or feature. What do you mean it should be compatible with all iPads?

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

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Post by canuckintime »

bengale wrote: post #19

Seems to be a lot of Chromebook comments. Has anyone actually seen one used in the real world? I contract at a bunch of different places and I've never seen anyone use one in a business setting. I'm not sure just learning how to use an iPad is better but I definitely see those being used.

I've owned a Chromebook Pixel and a cheap Asus chromebook. For a business setting they are pointless. For schoolkids (or elders who just want to browse the web [1]) they are brilliant.

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2016/2/1/10884918/i-bought-my-mom-a...

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

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Post by arbie »

chrisseaton wrote: post #31
canuckintime wrote: post #29

The Apple Pencil should be a key strategic advantage for the iPads and should be compatible with every model if not included in the box outright. Instead Apple restricts the Pencil to the Pro models. Microsoft won the Business world by owning the document format. Apple could win the education world by owning the handwritten notes format [1] if Pencils were standard What is Tim Cook's vision for education? Nobody fuck…

> The Apple should be a key strategic advantage for the iPads 'The Apple'? Apple is the name of the company, not any particular product or feature. What do you mean it should be compatible with all iPads?

I think he a word: The Apple Pencil

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

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Post by AlexeyBrin »

bengale wrote: post #19

Seems to be a lot of Chromebook comments. Has anyone actually seen one used in the real world? I contract at a bunch of different places and I've never seen anyone use one in a business setting. I'm not sure just learning how to use an iPad is better but I definitely see those being used.

The Chromebook is targeted toward education, you can use a real keyboard to type your homework and, if you are savvy enough, you can even install Linux on them and learn to program. In a business setting you probably want a light laptop with Windows or macOS.

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

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Post by usermac »

I just came from a state-wide, three day tech conference for K-12. I came as a technology person and thought I might just attend the sessions for teachers and boy did I get my eyes opened—Google Classroom is a major hit. Teachers really, really like Chromebooks. This is major.

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

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Post by greedo »

blakesterz wrote: post #3

My kids have now had both iPads and Chromebooks, and the Chromebooks were obvious winners in every single way. The teachers and kids both like them, they're clearly better for actual school work and learning, everything is just better. It's just a nice bonus that they're way cheaper.

My kids have both iPads and school issued Chromebooks. They hate the chromebooks, only using them for homework. They call them "CrummyBooks." The build quality is terrible, battery life is terrible, and to my kids, they're locked down way too much (some of this might simply be the wifi restrictions/filtering at school).

Initially our school district planned iPads, but backtracked over cost. We were initially excited for them, so that our kids wouldn't have to carry so many heavy textbooks. But the quality of the textbooks on the Chromebook are terrible. It's as if the publishers simply took galley proofs and dumped them into a pdf.

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

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Post by noxToken »

bengale wrote: post #19

Seems to be a lot of Chromebook comments. Has anyone actually seen one used in the real world? I contract at a bunch of different places and I've never seen anyone use one in a business setting. I'm not sure just learning how to use an iPad is better but I definitely see those being used.

I know of two people who used Chromebooks around 2015. One of them basically used it as a light laptop. Took notes with it, traveled with it, etc. The other guy used it as his primary computer. In spite of him praising it whenever someone would ask about it, he was always complaining about how difficult it was to use as a development machine. Once you got external software properly installed and configured, it was fine.

Hearing him complain was reminiscent of using Linux in the early 2000s. No one really wrote consumer applications for Linux at the time, and driver support was a nightmare. Once you figured out all the warts and quirk, it was fine.

This was 3+ years ago though, so I imagine things have improved in that space.

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

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Post by jaimex2 »

blakesterz wrote: post #3

My kids have now had both iPads and Chromebooks, and the Chromebooks were obvious winners in every single way. The teachers and kids both like them, they're clearly better for actual school work and learning, everything is just better. It's just a nice bonus that they're way cheaper.

Whats a computer?

Re: Apple Tries to Win Back Students and Teachers with Low-Cost iPad

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Post by Harvey-Specter »

greedo wrote: post #37
blakesterz wrote: post #3

My kids have now had both iPads and Chromebooks, and the Chromebooks were obvious winners in every single way. The teachers and kids both like them, they're clearly better for actual school work and learning, everything is just better. It's just a nice bonus that they're way cheaper.

My kids have both iPads and school issued Chromebooks. They hate the chromebooks, only using them for homework. They call them "CrummyBooks." The build quality is terrible, battery life is terrible, and to my kids, they're locked down way too much (some of this might simply be the wifi restrictions/filtering at school). Initially our school district planned iPads, but backtracked over cost. We were initially excited…

> the quality of the textbooks on the Chromebook are terrible

Would you expect the textbooks to be better quality on the iPads vs on the Chromebooks? Why?

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