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Is Android Only Surging Because Apple Is Letting It?

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Re: Is Android Only Surging Because Apple Is Letting It?

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Post by tyng »

arnorhs wrote: post #8

I found very few factual things in that article. He's trying to make a point that android devices are worse or the only feature they have is that you're not forced to use Verizon. (where he's obviously forgetting that there's a universe outside of the US) There are a dozen or more elements that are better about the iPhone. Everything from the big: the App Store versus the Android Market (from the consumer perspective…

If consumers aren't backing the Android phones it makes no difference if the developers are on the their side. Plus, now when you develop for the iPhone, you are almost also developing for iPad. Android still has a long way before catching up to Apple

Re: Is Android Only Surging Because Apple Is Letting It?

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Post by Volscio »

rodh257 wrote: post #24
Volscio wrote: post #2

They shouldn't let MG Siegler write about iOS v. Android on TechCrunch. :)

yep, saw the title, thought 'bet its MG Siegler', opened to confirm my suspicions then closed it. Getting really old now IMO.

I really like his social networking trends posts though. :)

Re: Is Android Only Surging Because Apple Is Letting It?

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Post by patrickaljord »

xsmasher wrote: post #11
arnorhs wrote: post #8

I found very few factual things in that article. He's trying to make a point that android devices are worse or the only feature they have is that you're not forced to use Verizon. (where he's obviously forgetting that there's a universe outside of the US) There are a dozen or more elements that are better about the iPhone. Everything from the big: the App Store versus the Android Market (from the consumer perspective…

There's more hacker affection for Linux than Windows, but somehow the year of Linux on the desktop was always right around the corner. Palm also had a devoted developer following, but it couldn't make up for mistakes at the mothership. In short history may repeat itself, but not the way you hope.

> There's more hacker affection for Linux than Windows, but somehow the year of Linux on the desktop was always right around the corner.

Just like the year of Mac on the desktop, Linux is around 1% and Mac 5%... and Mac is backed by a multi-billion dollar company. I think it has more to do with Microsoft winning the desktop platform a long time ago than anything else. Where Linux and Mac can make a dent is in the web and mobile, and they already did.

Re: Is Android Only Surging Because Apple Is Letting It?

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Post by patrickaljord »

siglesias wrote: post #16

I personally haven't seen this kind of discussion change a single opinion. As for the title question, we've all seen the customer satisfaction numbers and the willingness to switch numbers: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/smartphones/?p=816 , so I think, hinging on the credibility of these data, it's an empirical fact that iPhone stands a lot to gain by going to Verizon. If you're an iPhone developer, like myself,…

> Have these guys read 1984? "Big Brother" is supposed to represent the panopticon surveillance state, you know, one where your footsteps are tracked and recorded constantly. Sounds more like someone else to me.

Android is open source, if you believe it's spying on you, feel free to remove the bits of code you don't like, there are many ROMs available already. Now try to do the same with the iPhone, plus last time I checked it requires you to give your credit card before even using it...

Re: Is Android Only Surging Because Apple Is Letting It?

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Post by tomjen3 »

xsmasher wrote: post #11
arnorhs wrote: post #8

I found very few factual things in that article. He's trying to make a point that android devices are worse or the only feature they have is that you're not forced to use Verizon. (where he's obviously forgetting that there's a universe outside of the US) There are a dozen or more elements that are better about the iPhone. Everything from the big: the App Store versus the Android Market (from the consumer perspective…

There's more hacker affection for Linux than Windows, but somehow the year of Linux on the desktop was always right around the corner. Palm also had a devoted developer following, but it couldn't make up for mistakes at the mothership. In short history may repeat itself, but not the way you hope.

Yeah but the main issue with Linux versus Windows was always that Linux was more difficult to get to work than Windows, you had to do magic to get it to work with your hardware, and it was much too difficult to get to use out of the box.

Android has none of these problems, it is on a large amount of devices (more than ios), it is as shiny as Apples, but it has developers loving programming it.

Heck Linux own the server market so completely, that the only thing that could reasonably replace it would be another Unix.

Re: Is Android Only Surging Because Apple Is Letting It?

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Post by stoney »

patrickaljord wrote: post #35
chubs wrote: post #9

I'm so glad in australia we can have the iphone on all our networks... Just one more reason that this is the best country in the world ;)

Except for the internet censorship part ;)

There was a lot of noise about that, but in reality the internet "filtering" proposals have not (yet) been enacted and thanks to the latest election result look pretty much guaranteed to be unpassable now.

Re: Is Android Only Surging Because Apple Is Letting It?

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Post by sandipc »

gojomo wrote: post #7

What is the iPhone/Android proportion on AT&T? How about in countries where the iPhone is available on all carriers? That would be more instructive than a US/AT&T-centric analysis.

I would guess that the iPhone/Android proportion on AT&T is heavily skewed toward the iPhone because AT&T's Android devices are all underpowered and locked down relative to their counterparts on every other US network.

Re: Is Android Only Surging Because Apple Is Letting It?

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Post by blub »

Daishiman wrote: post #28
xsmasher wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's more hacker affection for Linux than Windows, but somehow the year of Linux on the desktop was always right around the corner. Palm also had a devoted developer following, but it couldn't make up for mistakes at the mothership. In short history may repeat itself, but not the way you hope.

Yet most of the software development done nowadays is web, and guess which is the favorite target for web deployments? Linux is coming of age in a post-desktop world, so the question is almost irrelevant. What IS relevant is that the biggest web technologies being used right now, as well as the technologies that will some day become dominant (Ruby, Scala, Haskell, Node.js, and others) are primarily for Linux and by L…

Most of the technologies you have enumerated only have mind-share on places like Reddit & HN. The exception is Ruby, which is still a drop in the ocean when compared to big players like PHP or Java. I'll give you the benefit of doubt and assume that you're just joking with Haskell and Scala. There are exactly ZERO Haskell jobs available in my country.

Second of all, those technologies are not Linux-centric, they are all cross-platform. A one-OS programming language/library is worthless in the present, except in rare cases such as specialized hardware-software solutions or in-house software.

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