Ferro – Simplifying web development, no more HTML • Hacker News Board

    curl https://easydatawarehousing.github.io/ferro/main_content.json \
    |exec sed '/{\"/{s/{\"/\
    \
    &/g;s/,\"/\
    &/g;s/\content\":\"/&\
    \
    /g;};s/\"}/&\
    \
    /g;s/\\u0026/\&/g'|exec unvis -h > 1.htm
    
    exec firefox file:///1.htm

Re: Ferro – Simplifying web development, no more HTML

#34

Post by MrBra » Sat, Mar 10, 2018, 9:17 PM UTC

matthewmacleod wrote: post #9

It’s great to play around with madcap ideas like this! That’s how we move towards better technology, and that path isn’t always obvious. That said, this is awful. Never, ever, ever override native scroll experience unless you’re building something that isn’t a page - and even then think thrice about it.

Your comment would have made more sense if you explained why do you actually think this is awful rather than just slipping to the custom scrolling argument. Or is it just because of that?

Re: Ferro – Simplifying web development, no more HTML

#35

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Mar 10, 2018, 9:18 PM UTC

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Re: Ferro – Simplifying web development, no more HTML

#36

Post by vim_wannabe » Sat, Mar 10, 2018, 9:18 PM UTC

jamestomasino wrote: post #2

It literally doesn't load anything without javascript enabled

Every day we stray further from hyperlinked documents.

Re: Ferro – Simplifying web development, no more HTML

#37

Post by MrBra » Sat, Mar 10, 2018, 9:19 PM UTC

For those who have difficulties getting it: it's not about the browser not running JS, it's about the developer not needing to write JS and not needing to use libraries for managing the DOM. And more.

Re: Ferro – Simplifying web development, no more HTML

#38

Post by MrBra » Sat, Mar 10, 2018, 9:25 PM UTC

kowdermeister wrote: post #8

> no more HTML/JS/CSS But it's there, just an abstraction (or many) away. If you don't get HTML/CSS then no framework will help you that generates it. You can avoid JS, but understanding the DOM and CSS best practices is essential. Once you get it, you don't need libraries like this.

This is not just an abstraction layer for HTML/JS/CSS. This redefines the DOM paradigm and makes it available to the developer (and app) in a much more immediate and meaningful way.

Re: Ferro – Simplifying web development, no more HTML

#39

Post by phaed » Sat, Mar 10, 2018, 9:29 PM UTC

ASP.NET Webforms all over again.

Re: Ferro – Simplifying web development, no more HTML

#40

Post by Pxtl » Sat, Mar 10, 2018, 9:33 PM UTC

vim_wannabe wrote: post #36

jamestomasino wrote: post #2

It literally doesn't load anything without javascript enabled

Every day we stray further from hyperlinked documents.

Good. An application platform shouldn't pretend to be a hyperlinked document platform. Embrace the reality of the modern web instead of torturing us with the backwards perverted abstraction.