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The metrics behind Spotify’s IPO

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Re: The metrics behind Spotify’s IPO

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Post by earenndil »

gizmodo59 wrote: post #29

Can anyone give some insights on how it compares to Apple Music or Google Play Music. With 9.99 you also get YouTube Red and the selection for play music seems to be huge when compared with Amazon Prime Music (At least enough for me). If I don't have a song in play, I can use YouTube app and it plays in background. This is important for regional songs as Spotify does not have a huge library for non English songs but…

I've heard that the quality of google play music is generally lower than apple/spotify (apple/spotify are matched, apple may be slightly higher). As for youtube, on mobile there are third-party apps that give all of the youtube red features for free (except exclusives).

Apple music requires a dedicated app for desktop playback (although spotify does too, if you want to play music offline) and doesn't work on linux (it may or may not work through wine).

Re: The metrics behind Spotify’s IPO

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Post by ArmandGrillet »

As a customer since a long time I agree that Spotify should become a platform, but I doubt they will succeed due to how they shipped previous features. Anyway, the three features I want:

- Lyrics, and integrating Genius for 1/100th of the tracks in the catalogue is not enough.

- Concert tickets, in a smart and transparent way. A musician I'm listening to a lot is coming in Germany? I want a notification, a way to share it with my Spotify friends, and a way to pay in one click.

- Listen to songs that are only available on Spotify. I am so pissed off by Apple doing that and I think it sucks, but Netflix did it and seeing exclusive versions/remixs/concerts via Spotify would make the platform incredibly valuable to me.

Sounds hard? Well doing an IPO and competing against Apple, Amazon, and Google is not easy. The smart playlists are great, the brand is valued, time to go further.

Re: The metrics behind Spotify’s IPO

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Post by majormajor »

mseebach wrote: post #14
hb3b wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The statistics point towards users wanting music from the big four labels. This may be one of the reasons they have double downed recently on their discovery products. If they can continue to divert user interest to artists from less expensive labels, it's a win/win. (Former Spotify employee, have no idea what I'm talking about).

> The statistics point towards users wanting music from the big four labels I'm sure they pointed that way for TV content, too, when Netflix did House of Cards. I think people want music that's "well known", music their peers also know about, and that goal is aligned with the big four labels, because they have the clout/infrastructure to get a song played on the radio etc., but it's not a causal relationship. With st…

By that time, actually, the four traditional TV networks were already quite disrupted by cable networks. Netflix was following a well-established non-major-broadcast-network model (e.g. HBO, USA, FX, Showtime, etc) that had achieved a lot of prominence already.

Some of the most talked-about shows in the country were only on cable.

Re: The metrics behind Spotify’s IPO

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Post by majormajor »

gizmodo59 wrote: post #29

Can anyone give some insights on how it compares to Apple Music or Google Play Music. With 9.99 you also get YouTube Red and the selection for play music seems to be huge when compared with Amazon Prime Music (At least enough for me). If I don't have a song in play, I can use YouTube app and it plays in background. This is important for regional songs as Spotify does not have a huge library for non English songs but…

Play Music's apps are very immature and half-baked feeling compared to the alternatives.

Apple is better in that regard, but its app distribution is massively limited compared to Spotify or even Google Play.

Re: The metrics behind Spotify’s IPO

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Post by sushisource »

ArmandGrillet wrote: post #32

As a customer since a long time I agree that Spotify should become a platform, but I doubt they will succeed due to how they shipped previous features. Anyway, the three features I want: - Lyrics, and integrating Genius for 1/100th of the tracks in the catalogue is not enough. - Concert tickets, in a smart and transparent way. A musician I'm listening to a lot is coming in Germany? I want a notification, a way to sha…

Number 2/3 sort of already exist. At least, the notifications part for concerts, and the "Spotify singles" for the exclusive tracks (it's not really the sense you meant, though).

Being able to buy the concert tickets simply and easily would be killer though. Especially if it meant I wasn't paying $14 "convenience fees"

Re: The metrics behind Spotify’s IPO

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Post by tudelo »

ArmandGrillet wrote: post #32

As a customer since a long time I agree that Spotify should become a platform, but I doubt they will succeed due to how they shipped previous features. Anyway, the three features I want: - Lyrics, and integrating Genius for 1/100th of the tracks in the catalogue is not enough. - Concert tickets, in a smart and transparent way. A musician I'm listening to a lot is coming in Germany? I want a notification, a way to sha…

Also a long time customer here for Spotify. 2 is very interesting and I would certainly like it. 3 I am not interested in. I hate when other platforms do it, so I am not interested in the platform I use doing it as well. Maybe I am just not used to it. Netflix originals, however, I have no problems with. I wonder if I am the only one who feels a different opinion on visual/audio segregation. For music it just feels... blah.

Re: The metrics behind Spotify’s IPO

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Post by sushisource »

joncrane wrote: post #30
matwood wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cost opaqueness is Amazon's MO around services. AWS is a huge offender.

I've found it relatively easy to price out AWS projects, especially using their Cost Calculator: https://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html Between that and https://ec2instances.info/ , I can figure out the vast majority of what I need to know about costs on AWS. What are the gaps that you see?

If they were genuinely interested in making it easy you'd see pricing information every time you're spinning up a new EC2 instance / whatever other service, right there, without needing to go pull up the cost calculator. Have an instant "estimate my current bill" button, etc, etc.

Re: The metrics behind Spotify’s IPO

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Post by tudelo »

sushisource wrote: post #35
ArmandGrillet wrote: post #32

As a customer since a long time I agree that Spotify should become a platform, but I doubt they will succeed due to how they shipped previous features. Anyway, the three features I want: - Lyrics, and integrating Genius for 1/100th of the tracks in the catalogue is not enough. - Concert tickets, in a smart and transparent way. A musician I'm listening to a lot is coming in Germany? I want a notification, a way to sha…

Number 2/3 sort of already exist. At least, the notifications part for concerts, and the "Spotify singles" for the exclusive tracks (it's not really the sense you meant, though). Being able to buy the concert tickets simply and easily would be killer though. Especially if it meant I wasn't paying $14 "convenience fees"

They could give it a pretty large spin on being great for the musician as well.

Re: The metrics behind Spotify’s IPO

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Post by gnud »

ibdf wrote: post #22

The article compares Amazon Prime music with Spotify... I'm a prime member and enjoy many of the advantages it comes with, but Prime Music is not one of them. It's horrible! A few months ago I thought I would give it a try and only use Prime Music because... why pay for two services? After about one month of use, I went back to spotify. The prime player UI is no good, the music selection is horrible, the music recomm…

I continue to pay for spotify, and I'm a semi-happy user. But I would pay double for better search/metadata and none of the idiotic suggestions.

Re: The metrics behind Spotify’s IPO

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Post by arbie »

sushisource wrote: post #37
joncrane wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found it relatively easy to price out AWS projects, especially using their Cost Calculator: https://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html Between that and https://ec2instances.info/ , I can figure out the vast majority of what I need to know about costs on AWS. What are the gaps that you see?

If they were genuinely interested in making it easy you'd see pricing information every time you're spinning up a new EC2 instance / whatever other service, right there, without needing to go pull up the cost calculator. Have an instant "estimate my current bill" button, etc, etc.

To be fair, Azure is no less opaque.
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