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We Dare You to Explain Luke’s Plan to Rescue Han in ‘Return of the Jedi’

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Re: We Dare You to Explain Luke’s Plan to Rescue Han in ‘Return of the Jedi’

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It's interesting to wonder how crowds would receive Empire Strikes Back if it came out today. I wager it would get roughly the same praise about special effects in action and criticism about bizarre story as the most recent Disney episode

There's a cool 2 part video series by Mikey Neumann that delves into the immediate post-release reception for each of the Star Wars films, it's pretty interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij5fWCAnBPY

Re: We Dare You to Explain Luke’s Plan to Rescue Han in ‘Return of the Jedi’

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She's got grenades and blasters down, so I suspect she could work out where the pointy end goes.

Well, those aren’t civilized weapons, are they?

Well, her civilization was wiped out a couple films prior...

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Well, those aren’t civilized weapons, are they?

Well, her civilization was wiped out a couple films prior...

Alderaan is a peaceful planet, so it’s not a great place to learn how to use weapons anyways…

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I have a similar question about a different movie: in Die Hard, Bruce sure whines a lot about how the police are following the Plan. But...what were they supposed to do, if not follow their best available Plan? What did Bruce want them to do, if he had his druthers? Should they...NOT follow The Plan? Follow the second-best available Plan?

Going forward, how ought The Plan be modified? Should they add a "now we roll a 20-sided die!" step, so future terrorists can never again be sure what'll happen?

Re: We Dare You to Explain Luke’s Plan to Rescue Han in ‘Return of the Jedi’

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Star Wars was just meant to be a kids’ movie and not a sacred document I saw The Last Jedi, had a great time, and came home to find Star Wars fans apoplectic about it, picking apart all kinds of things ("how does rey know how to swim?", "how does leia survive space?", etc). The original trilogy would never survive similar scrutiny. I went to see a kids movie about space wizards, and that's what I got. It was fun.

Obviously, everyone is entitled to enjoy what they want, but this movie was difficult for me, even by Star Wars standards. If we can just destroy entire enemy fleets by jumping to lightspeed with one ship, why are not all battles fought that way. Also, why couldn't the captain leave and have the computer pilot the ship? Maybe it's just that the original trilogy slipped in to me before I got old enough to where I thin…

With the ships jumping into lightspeed, it is easy economical calculation. How long it takes to build a ship? They also aimed at one big commander ship not wiping entire fleet.

I think it is reasonable for ship systems to be programmed to avoid collisions when jumping to lightspeed. Manual override would be reasonable measure to pull that move.

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Obviously, everyone is entitled to enjoy what they want, but this movie was difficult for me, even by Star Wars standards. If we can just destroy entire enemy fleets by jumping to lightspeed with one ship, why are not all battles fought that way. Also, why couldn't the captain leave and have the computer pilot the ship? Maybe it's just that the original trilogy slipped in to me before I got old enough to where I thin…

With the ships jumping into lightspeed, it is easy economical calculation. How long it takes to build a ship? They also aimed at one big commander ship not wiping entire fleet. I think it is reasonable for ship systems to be programmed to avoid collisions when jumping to lightspeed. Manual override would be reasonable measure to pull that move.

I also think it makes no sense. It was full of fake constructed emotion moments. Manual override? You cant program your own ship? Okay. What about not putting your most experienced war general but one of the zilion androids? Or the sick guy with cancer who will volunteer because he has 2 months to live.

I mean star wars arent so much scifi but fantasy in scifi setting. Battles would surely not be fought like this. But this had so many glorious plot holes and constructed fake moments...

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With the ships jumping into lightspeed, it is easy economical calculation. How long it takes to build a ship? They also aimed at one big commander ship not wiping entire fleet. I think it is reasonable for ship systems to be programmed to avoid collisions when jumping to lightspeed. Manual override would be reasonable measure to pull that move.

I also think it makes no sense. It was full of fake constructed emotion moments. Manual override? You cant program your own ship? Okay. What about not putting your most experienced war general but one of the zilion androids? Or the sick guy with cancer who will volunteer because he has 2 months to live. I mean star wars arent so much scifi but fantasy in scifi setting. Battles would surely not be fought like this. Bu…

I suppose it’s the romantic notion of “captain goes down with the ship”. Plus it’s probably not a common situation that you would have an empty capital ship with a kamikaze pilot — let alone pursuers that can chase it across hyperspace.

Re: We Dare You to Explain Luke’s Plan to Rescue Han in ‘Return of the Jedi’

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Well, her civilization was wiped out a couple films prior...

Alderaan is a peaceful planet, so it’s not a great place to learn how to use weapons anyways…

It was a front for a terrorist organization, which is why the Empire freed every molecule of the planet with their liberation ray.
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