So IIUC, they're charging people differently based on their nationality (in the sense the people from outside the U.S. cannot get the discount).
Is such discrimitory pricing legal?
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#32I noticed this from the article:
The proportion of museumgoers who pay a “suggested” amount has declined from 63 percent to 17 percent over the last 13 years...
Which made me think of something else I've encountered, which is that the percentage of people who respond to phone polls has plummeted over a similar time frame - http://www.pewresearch.org/2017/05/15/what-low-response-rate...
I wonder if these trends are related symptoms of a cultural change away from community-mindedness, and if so, has anyone seen other numbers in the same vein?
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#33So IIUC, they're charging people differently based on their nationality (in the sense the people from outside the U.S. cannot get the discount). Is such discrimitory pricing legal?
Yes. There are a bunch of places in SF that give discounts if you are a local.
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#34So IIUC, they're charging people differently based on their nationality (in the sense the people from outside the U.S. cannot get the discount). Is such discrimitory pricing legal?
I can't read nytimes (not a subscriber) but how are they verifying citizenship?
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#35So IIUC, they're charging people differently based on their nationality (in the sense the people from outside the U.S. cannot get the discount). Is such discrimitory pricing legal?
I can't read nytimes (not a subscriber) but how are they verifying citizenship?
They likely are only verify residency (via ID or utility bill), so persons of other nationalities but living in NY should get a discount.
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#36I noticed this from the article: The proportion of museumgoers who pay a “suggested” amount has declined from 63 percent to 17 percent over the last 13 years... Which made me think of something else I've encountered, which is that the percentage of people who respond to phone polls has plummeted over a similar time frame - http://www.pewresearch.org/2017/05/15/what-low-response-rate... I wonder if these trends are re…
>The proportion of museumgoers who pay a “suggested” amount has declined from 63 percent to 17 percent over the last 13 years...
That's pretty striking. I've always taken the Met's policy in the vein of "You don't HAVE to pay this amount but you really should" and always have. (Even though I admit to not always throwing money in when it's a more casual please donate situation.)
I'm pretty surprised that payments had dipped this low.
I'm not sure I put it in the same class as phone calls though. So many unsolicited phone calls are just random robocall SPAM that it's not as if I'm passing up some societal contribution by not answering.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
My first time at the Louvre, I was enjoying a relatively quiet stroll through the less crowded galleries after enjoying a thoroughly european vacation for about a week. It was only when I happened into a very busy gallery with a quickly moving throng of people. My reverie was shattered when I heard over my shoulder in a thick southern US drawl "Man, lets just go see the Mona Lisa and get the f * outta here." It was r…
I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. I first went to Paris in 2014, and I experienced the same thing. Throngs of people surrounding the Mona Lisa. I was with family that wasn't very receptive to the Louvre experience, so we pretty much "saw the Mona Lisa and got the f* out". I'm heading back to Paris next month with just my wife, and I plan on spending at least 2 days in the Louvre. I wouldn't say that people rui…
The opposite of that can be equally irritating.
Take for instance the Galleria Borghese in Rome which only allows 500 visitors in pre-determined slots. If you miss your slot or everything is filled out during your trip, you'll miss out like we did.
What I haven't figured out is why museums like the Louvre need to close for the night, its art work. Why not leave it open all night long and shutdown for a few days for maintenance work.
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#38Here's how I see it: I pay city taxes all year round, visitors don't. The policy is fair.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. I first went to Paris in 2014, and I experienced the same thing. Throngs of people surrounding the Mona Lisa. I was with family that wasn't very receptive to the Louvre experience, so we pretty much "saw the Mona Lisa and got the f* out". I'm heading back to Paris next month with just my wife, and I plan on spending at least 2 days in the Louvre. I wouldn't say that people rui…
The opposite of that can be equally irritating. Take for instance the Galleria Borghese in Rome which only allows 500 visitors in pre-determined slots. If you miss your slot or everything is filled out during your trip, you'll miss out like we did. What I haven't figured out is why museums like the Louvre need to close for the night, its art work. Why not leave it open all night long and shutdown for a few days for m…
I expect for the same reason most stores close down at night. Sure, you'll get some business but probably not enough to cover the costs of staying open. Furthermore, there's probably a lot of daily maintenance and cleaning to do.
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#40I noticed this from the article: The proportion of museumgoers who pay a “suggested” amount has declined from 63 percent to 17 percent over the last 13 years... Which made me think of something else I've encountered, which is that the percentage of people who respond to phone polls has plummeted over a similar time frame - http://www.pewresearch.org/2017/05/15/what-low-response-rate... I wonder if these trends are re…
>The proportion of museumgoers who pay a “suggested” amount has declined from 63 percent to 17 percent over the last 13 years... That's pretty striking. I've always taken the Met's policy in the vein of "You don't HAVE to pay this amount but you really should" and always have. (Even though I admit to not always throwing money in when it's a more casual please donate situation.) I'm pretty surprised that payments had…
That's a fair point but seems like it's only part of the picture, I just did a bit more digging and it looks like the proportion of people who pick up has dropped by about 1/3 while the proportion of people who agree to participate after talking to the live pollster has dropped by 3x, a similar decline to the proportion who pay the Met. http://www.people-press.org/2012/05/15/assessing-the-represe...
Obviously though drawing conclusions from these two trends would be premature, so I'm hoping someone might think of numbers they've seen on similar topics, whether they align with these or not.